Don't worry, gooble, some of us try to be mature adults... thing is, you have a couple of, I guess the best way of putting it is, that you have several "cores" of friends from different congregations in and around New Jersey that all know each other and are pretty loose with each other. They also intertwine with each other, bridging the congregational groups. Yeah, some of the stuff that is discussed is kind of whiney and whatnot, but that's how it goes I guess... I try not to take offense when some of these "kids" call me the "old guy" (i'm 37 while the bulk of eZabel is in their late teens to early 20's). It's all about perspective and big picture. If these guys are giving you a hard time, view it as their way of accepting you into the eZabel community, I suppose...