no ian, i think that YOU are missing the point. You obviously just skimmed my comment without really reading into it's deeper meanings. Talk about making me feel like a loser! Anyways........ yeah that does make sense, convenience is an issue here. But I don't think that this whole cd copying thing will be that big of a problem. if enough people get annoyed about hearing blips in their music, they will make record companies put a stop to it, i mean its enough that they wont let people trade music online right?