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Tell me about the bees

forrestina by forrestinaOG 2002 · Nov 14, 2004 · 157 views

BZZZZ What's all the buzz about? December's book has been voted on The Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd. We're skipping a month since November is halfway gone already. A near tie with One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez, this book beat out alot of other good nominations as well. Check it out!

Description
Living on a peach farm in South Carolina with her harsh, unyielding father, Lily Owens has shaped her entire life around one devastating, blurred memory--the afternoon her mother was killed, when Lily was four. Since then, her only real companion has been the fierce-hearted, and sometimes just fierce, black woman Rosaleen, who acts as her "stand-in mother."

When Rosaleen insults three of the deepest racists in town, Lily knows it's time to spring them both free. They take off in the only direction Lily can think of, toward a town called Tiburon, South Carolina--a name she found on the back of a picture amid the few possessions left by her mother.

There they are taken in by an eccentric trio of black beekeeping sisters named May, June, and August. Lily thinks of them as the calendar sisters and enters their mesmerizing secret world of bees and honey, and of the Black Madonna who presides over this household of strong, wise women. Maternal loss and betrayal, guilt and forgiveness entwine in a story that leads Lily to the single thing her heart longs for most.

The Secret Life of Bees has a rare wisdom about life--about mothers and daughters and the women in our lives who become our true mothers. A remarkable story about the divine power of women and the transforming power of love, this is a stunning debut whose rich, assured, irresistible voice gathers us up and doesn't let go, not for a moment. It is the kind of novel that women share with each other and that mothers will hand down to their daughters for years to come.

Discussion Questions for the Reader
Were you surprised to learn that T. Ray used to be different, that once he truly loved Deborah? How do you think Deborah’s leaving affected him? Did it shed any light on why T. Ray was so cruel and abusive to Lily?

Had you ever heard of “kneeling on grits” before? What qualities did Lily have that allowed her to survive, endure and eventually thrive, despite T. Ray?

Who is the queen bee in this story?

Lily’s relationship to her dead mother was complex, ranging from guilt, to idealization, to hatred, to acceptance. What happens inside a daughter when she discovers her mother once abandoned her? Is Lily right– would people generally rather die than forgive? Was it harder for Lily to forgive her mother or herself?

Lily grew up without her mother, but in the end she finds a house full of them. Have you ever had a mother figure in your life who wasn’t your true mother? Have you ever had to leave home to find home?

What compelled Rosaleen to spit on the three men’s shoes? Did something in her finally say “Enough!”? Can you imagine yourself in her situation? What does it take for a person to stand up with conviction against brutalizing injustice? What did you like best about Rosaleen?

Had you ever heard of the Black Madonna? What do you think of the story surrounding the Black Madonna in the novel? How would the story be different if it had been a picture of a white Virgin Mary? The women in the pink house drew consolation and power from the Black Madonna. Do you know women whose lives have been deepened or enriched by a connection to an empowering Divine Mother?

Many women in our society are isolated from other women. Why is it important that women come together? What did you think of the “Calendar Sisters” and the Daughters of Mary? How did being in the company of this circle of females transform Lily?

May built a wailing wall to help her come to terms with the pain she felt inside. Even though we don’t have May’s “condition,” do we also need private and public “rituals,” like wailing walls, to help us deal with our grief and suffering?

How would you describe Lily and Zach’s relationship? What drew them together? Could you appreciate how taboo their love was in the South in 1964? Did you root for them to be together?

Project into the future. Does Lily ever see her father again? Does she become a beekeeper? A writer? What happens to Rosaleen? What happens with Lily and Zach? Who would Zach be today?

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27 Comments

forrestina #4 forrestinaOG 2002

Book club was excellent! Thank you and welcome to the new members. Let's try to avoid pretending we're shooting a Dr. Phil show. =P

forrestina #3 forrestinaOG 2002

okay this book is very upsetting to me. I will finish it at lunch today. It's a fast read, but I keep stopping to "recover" from what I've read.

sunshyne #3.1 sunshyneOG 2004

i warned you...

forrestina #3.1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

That you did. I'm just wondering why Chrisst would pick a book like this?!

sunshyne #3.1.1.1 sunshyneOG 2004

she didnt read it before picking it, did she?

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

doubtful, but she reads up on things a lot before she dives in

sunshyne sunshyneOG 2004

well although it was a tearjerker, i enjoyed it anyway.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

eh I think she was trying to be overly descriptive at times and it kinda annoyed me.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

gee..can't wait to read it.

malibu #2 malibuOG 2001

this reminds me of the movie coming out about che guavera.

forrestina #2.1 forrestinaOG 2002

It already came out. And I missed it. =(

fivezero #2.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

Motorcycle Diaries? It's a Che fantasy movie. Theres a movie called Che coming out that is actually going to be a bio-pic! Directed by the best director EVER--Steve Soderberg [traffic, out of sight, erin brockavich, oceans 11&12, solaris, the limey] starring Benicio Del Toro as CHE! A sure-fire classic.

forrestina #2.1.1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

haha fantasy, but it's still cool to think about what his life was like before he was a dictador

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

A dictator? hmmm. though he was worked with Fidel Castro, i always thought he was trying to free Cuba from poverty and mismanagement. Castro did his own thing, ignored Che's advice and admonition to organized industry and government. When that failed he went and fought for causes he believed in. Starting revolutions and violently opposing governmental oppression. I dunno though. I'm gonna do some research now.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Che was in Argentina with Parone messing things up.

malibu malibuOG 2001

yeah and they traveled around finding hidden citites and it was an adventure that changed their lives. anybody see growin up gotti last week? the uncle was explaining to the boys about how they're too spoiled and they should be more like che guavera and the amazing journey he went on and the boys are talking like "i think the bugs really like my hair gel. "

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

hmmm I mistakenly associate those affiliated with guerrilla warfare to be supporters of communism. I'm going to have to go pick up a biography on this man.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

me too

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Go watch Evita.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

GOODNESS! pimp BAD musicals starring Madonna elsewhere! jk

sunshyne sunshyneOG 2004

that movie frightened me. i hope i never look that old.

malibu #2.1.1.2 malibuOG 2001

haha. why is it a fantasy movie? isn't it based on true events. wanna see it. and its with gael garcia bernal. score!

iwz #1 iwz

my dad read this, i think he liked it.

forrestina #1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

It doesn't seem like something I am going to like. We were talking about the club with a sister from Paramus that read the book and hated it. I really hope she makes our meeting because we haven't really picked a book that someone didn't like yet.

This is kinda random I guess...I usually don't like books about American culture.

sunshyne #1.1.1 sunshyneOG 2004

hello! i didnt like the first book. btw-i got this one and the alt pick at target yesterday. also, i bought the world according to mr rogers and tomorrow by bradley trevor greive (blue day book author).

forrestina #1.1.1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Ha I forgot about that one. I ordered this and the alt pick as well (and everyone else's alt pics haha)

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