i'm catching up cos i never read alice and i think it's pretty interesting. i'm reading the annotated version, which makes a lot of sense out of things. i wish everything had an annotated version...

#8.1 sunshyneOG 2004

Jun 6, 2005

i wish there was an annoted version of me. useful facts about summer to help everyone put her quirkiness into context.

#8.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

Jun 6, 2005

annotated of version of Summer: tl;dr

#8.1.1.1 sunshyneOG 2004

Jun 6, 2005

ouch! that hurts!

fivezeroOG 2003

Jun 6, 2005

i'm kidding, pumpkin

#8.2 deanh77Founder

Jun 24, 2005

I just wanted to say, if you like the Alice books, read "Automated Alice" by Jeff Noon. It's basically an unauthorized sequel to the original books by Lewis Carrol. I think he even pretends that it was written by Lewis Carrol and he just edited it or something, or maybe I'm mixing it up with something else on that point.

But it is great, and I thought really felt like the other two, but its sort of like "what if Lewis Carrol wrote an alice book that dealt with the ideas behind computers"

One thing is it has a couple small references to Noon's Vurt series, if you haven't read that (I hadn't) they won't get in the way, I think they're just gems for Noon fans to get.

#8.2.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Jun 24, 2005

interesting. i'll put those on my to read list. thanks for the tip.

#7 yayOG 2004

Feb 17, 2005

yessssssssss i've been waiting for automatic underlining, my dream

#6 rocksupastarFounder

Feb 17, 2005

wow.. this entire thread looks like POOP! what did you all do??!??!?!

#6.1 originalsnobOG 2004

Feb 17, 2005

A thread of poop? Eh, sound more like your fortaye *OOOOoooo BURN!

#5 hunkpapapOG 2003

Dec 17, 2004

Dune. DUNE DUNE DUNE. I'll even lead the discussions. I love that book, but don't listen to me cuz it's the only one i know...

#4 malibuOG 2001

Dec 16, 2004

i love a tree grows in brooklyn. it was someone else's summer reading one time so i read it too and it was awesome. defientely read that.

#4.1 malibuOG 2001

Dec 17, 2004

house on mango street is another tiny book full of references and different meanings. sad book i think i saw the author at a poetry festival. very tiny and cute.

alice and wonderland and through the looking glass are both really good. closely related to the movies but better. i like throught the looking glass cuz i could mostly create my own mind images.

desireing italy looks cute. especialy if your book club is full of italian women. i'd love to read it. of the ones i haven't read i'd go with this one.

#4.1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 20, 2004

are you going to come this time or what?!

#4.1.1.1 malibuOG 2001

Dec 21, 2004

well maybe if you finally would pick a book. and what day, cuz then i need to know. but on general terms i would love to come this time!!!

forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 21, 2004

if you kept up with the evite you'd be able to participate in the decision like everyone else...ROAR

malibuOG 2001

Dec 21, 2004

kept up with it? i opened it. does it count?

fivezeroOG 2003

Dec 21, 2004

ROAR!

forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 22, 2004

judges say EHHHHHHHH NO

#3 fivezeroOG 2003

Dec 13, 2004

Dune or High Fidelity.

#3.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 14, 2004

never read HF, but i'm wondering if Dune is conducive to discussion

#3.2 suchgr8heightsOG 2003

Dec 15, 2004

I voted High Fidelity.

#3.2.1 suchgr8heightsOG 2003

Dec 21, 2004

ok so THAT'S out..now Alice in Wonderland. I kinda hope we do this cuz it's classic and would be really fun..

Tea Party theme!!

#3.2.1.1 sunshyneOG 2004

Dec 22, 2004

i just read alice in oct or nov. but id read it again (annotated) for the book club. im sure i missed many references.

#2 juicymangoOG 2003

Dec 13, 2004

OH i read the Red Death book too. It was good.. but if i remember correctly it was a little slow-moving..

#2.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 14, 2004

we're thinking of having a poe month-where we read a few shorts and discuss.

#1 juicymangoOG 2003

Dec 13, 2004

Ok I loved Lord of the Flies (funny that in the amazon link it is suggested to buy with Catcher in the Rye, my FAVORITE book - they're sort of similar) anyways I got in trouble for reading it (this was in.. 9th grade i think?) because it was 'violent'. Um, it's a little violent I guess but it's a really good book and just in general highly metaphorical... I loved this book.

#1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

Dec 14, 2004

we've been having a HUGE fight with the bro that suggested that we read this cos some people in the club absolutely hate this book. he wanted to read something "with teeth." i don't blame him, but i don't think this is it...

#1.2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

Dec 14, 2004

I absolutely hate Lord of the Flies. I read it as a freshmen in High School and I don't remember anything enjoyable about it. I thought it was disgusting and over-stuffed with symbolism.

#1.2.1 juicymangoOG 2003

Dec 14, 2004

aw. I liked it.

#1.2.2 beachbumOG 2002

Dec 28, 2004

i liked it also. i think the point the author was trying to make is very on the mark.

#1.2.2.1 malibuOG 2001

Dec 28, 2004

i like how english teachers always put symbolism into books but he always strictly stated what his symbols were. and he wouldn't let anyone interpret them in any other way.

speakig of which... the other day we had a guest speaker of art in english class. and our teacher had been arguing with us how in metamorphosis by franz kafka the apple represented somethign and we said no. in the presentation on dali, he said about how you never know what the artist meant unless they tell you. toatlly put her in her place. bam!

thatdarngirlOG 2002

Dec 29, 2004

Metamorphosis..weird stuff right there.

But as for putting symbols into stuff..it drives me crazy. The authors were probably just writing a nice story about nothing and then bam the bird that they have flying overhead and pooping on the ground in chapter 10 foreshadows the marriage of Katie and Susie in book 15. Like..whaaat. In A Tale of Two Cities I remember that my teacher insisted that the gnats flying outside the court room door had some meaning. Maybe they were just gnats and that city had trouble with them?

malibuOG 2001

Jan 3, 2005

i remember hating that book for all the symbolism my teacher put in it. that and i didn't read it thoroughly so maybe i was just too confused to care. i saw the wishbone version, so there was no need to actually read it.

February is the month!

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