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flomojopoanode by flomojopoanodeFounder · Jun 28, 2004 · 380 views · ·

New Question: I'm having problems with my home network. I just got a router, and I'm trying to network my WinXP to my parents' Win98. I need to be able to print, and I'd like to be able to share files. I have both computers set up on the same workgroup and the computer with the printer (98) is set up to share that printer. It seems that XP can see that 98 is there, but it can't see the printer (although already share-level shared) and it says basically that access is denied no matter what I try to do. Any suggestions? Thanks, I appreciate your help!

Retired Question: Which should I choose for my desktop computer? A wireless PCI card adapter or a wireless USB Adapter?
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flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

my person question thread is back in business.

Here it is.

I'm trying to figure out what the Force is of a 910,000 pound aircraft flying at 570 mph.

I know that Force= Mass x Acceleration

I know that my Acceleration is going to be constant, because the velocity isn't increasing. So A = 0? Then I've got no force from a Aircraft flying at 570 mph. That makes no sense--where am I going wrong?!

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·
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rocksupastarFounder ·

oh, pshaaaw... easy... it equals pi.... cherry pi.

iwz iwz ·

that's right. the Net Force = 0.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

that's like saying the planes that hit the world towers exerted 0 force.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

okay, wait, maybe the acceleration is negative...from 570 mph down to 0. Hmm, okay, I gotta figure that out...

iwz iwz ·

do some reading on net force, and applied force. and, yes, when the plane hits something, you have to assume that there will be an acceleration in the opposite direction from velocity to 0.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

yeah, I gots it. I'll assume that it all happens in a second. That gives me an acceleration in the opposite direction of....

570 mph = 821.333 ft/s
821.333 (=difference in speed)/1 second = 821.333 acceleration in opposite direction...
Weight of Jet = Mass x Acceleration(gravity)
Mass of Jet = 28260.87
Mass x Acceleration(1) = Force

A spiderweb made as thick as a fishing net rope could hold back:

DRUM ROLL

23,211,584.78 Pounds of Force

HOLY CRAP! JEHOVAH IS SO AMAZING!

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

anyone want to check me on this?

deanh77 deanh77Founder ·

I'm not gonna do the math, but thats probably about right. you got the concepts right (after firguring out that when you go from really fast to 0, you are accelerating negatively (decelerating)) and thats half the battle. there's some other stuff involved, such as transfer of momentum.

deanh77 deanh77Founder ·

ok, I did the math and got pretty close to what you got.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

this is equivalent to roughly 1,500 large elephants!

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003 ·

Good book study, eh?

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

You know it.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003 ·

I'm highly enjoying this book.

yay yayOG 2004 ·

Yup one of my favorite's right next to the creator book

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

this is nice, guys. I love this book so much. I had the privilege to conduct from last november until last month (straight). Couldn't have been with a better book. (Imagine I had gotten the Worship God book with 1 billion scriptures per chapter?)

iwz iwz ·

this will help you out.

http://support.its.ied.edu.hk/stufaq/7.3.html

Basically, share the printer on 98, and set a password for it.
Then, on XP, add the printer, and then complete the wizard. Then open a command prompt, and do this:
net use \\computer_name\printer password /persistent:yes

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

well, I did share the printer on the 98, but I can't see it from the XP. I can see the 98 computer. I can't set up the printer on my XP...maybe I should first try "net use \\computer_name\printer password /persistent:yes".

By the way, I'm at work, so I won't be able to test this at all until later. Thanks for your help, Ian and everyone.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

wow that site you found is so specific! Thanks, Ian, this will do the trick, I'm sure.

How do you find that stuff all the time!? Jeez! You found this in so little time! I spent some time looking for what I needed... and I found a 100 page document that I wasn't about to read through in its entirety. Maybe I don't google specifically enough.

iwz iwz ·

i just googled for: windows 98 share printer xp
came up as the first link.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=windows+98+share+printer+xp

the order of the search terms can make a difference.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

what is UP with this!? That's not working either. I don't get it.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004 ·

Which PC is the printer connected to? XP or 98?

Side note, upgrade those 98 machines.

iwz iwz ·

upgrading to xp is a good idea.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

I know, tell me about it. But if you haven't noticed, my dad hates change. I've already suggested this to him. Printer is connected to the 98.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

I'm ready for any suggestions you've got (read the new heading)

iwz iwz ·

should have made this a new thread, so that the old comments would be useful for archiving/searching purposes.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Thank you everyone for your help, and Ian for your amazing research.

I should be receiving my dsl stuff soon (router and all) so we'll see what's up with that soon. I'm not sure that the router comes with any direct connects (for an RJ45 network cable), but I think I read that it does. Has anyone ever heard of one that does not have ANY direct connetions and was strictly wireless?

iwz iwz ·

that's unlikely. it's possible, but most likely it has at least one rj45 jack.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

yeah, that's what I thought.

iwz iwz ·

What's the DSL update?

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

July 8th man. I'll have it, parts are on their way already!

iwz iwz ·

SWEET!! finnnallllyyy

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

I know, FINALLY, hahaha. He gave me the go-ahead the other day. We will pay only 10 more dollars total for DSL than we did for dial-up, and the first month is free, AND the router is free. The only thing we have to pay for is the wireless card. And we're going to split the DSL bill so instead of 20 for internet for him to pay, we will each cover 1/2. That's 15 each. Can you believe with all the positives that it still took this long to be approved?

iwz iwz ·

hahaha, well, i'll believe it when you actually have it installed. up until then, I still expect your dad to change his mind at any second. hahaha

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

lol, me too. He hates change!

iwz iwz ·

hehe, then 2 days after you have it... Todd, why didn't we do this years ago?? This is great!

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

lol, it's like you can predict the future...

iwz iwz ·

Here's the deal.

USB 1.1 = 12 mbit/s
USB 2.0 = 480 mbits/s

802.11B = MAX 11 mbit/s (realistically, ~6 mbit/s)
802.11G = MAX 54 mbit/s (realistically, ~23 mbit/s)

Internet connection with DSL = probably about 3 mbit/s. Even with 802.11B and USB 1.1, your net connection won't be able to saturate your network bandwidth.

USB is more portable as everybody else said, which is nice, but it will also take up a USB jack on your PC, and will stick out from the back of the pc, or if it has a long wire, sit on top of the pc or something.

PCI will take up a PCI slot, and will have a huge antenna sticking up.

It's less about the speed, more about the practicality.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·
iwz iwz ·

ah yes, latency and CPU usage are definitely factors. go with PCI.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Sweet. That's what I wanted to hear allllllllllllll along.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Ian knows (or can find) all. pwnage.

iwz iwz ·

haha yeah, basically I know nothing. I just like searching. Maybe I'm good at picking out the important parts or something.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

So which is more practical? I have 4 usb slots, and 1 taken. I have room for a PCI card. My dad's computer...well, let's just say that might be a different deal. I'm going to get him a 802.11B adapter, but I'm going to get a 802.11G adapter for LAN parties (@ mike's or wherever) and such. For LAN gaming, which is better, then?

iwz iwz ·

Summary: PCI for you, PCI for your Dad (unless he has no slots left).

Of course: directly wiring at least one computer into the router is the BEST solution.

iwz iwz ·

At home, I have the modem and router sitting on my PC desk, and my PC is wired to the router. My Tivo and DVD player use wifi to talk to the router.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Hmm, my computer is faster than my dad's so I was thinking of hooking mine directly to the router, and he could get the wireless.... I forgot that I had been thinking about that, too

iwz iwz ·

that's a good idea.

then you'd only notice the slower wifi speeds when transferring files across the network between PCs.

superhero superheroOG 2004 ·

wireless USB adapter. definitely. because it's a lot more portable, should you ever decide to change PCs, or bring it with you to work, or ever get a laptop, etc.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

is it just as fast as the PCI card? (assuming that the USB card and PCI card are both 802.11g)

superhero superheroOG 2004 ·

same speed. the network is going to move at a MAX of 11 MB/sec of 54 MB/sec, the way the card is installed has no bearing on this whatsoever.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

well, just how fast can a USB port transfer data?

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

USB 2.0 can transfer data at the rate of 400 Mbps (that is approximately 50 MB/s). Which means I should probably get the PCI card, unless that transfer rate is lower.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Even with the slowest PCI (if I'm reading this correctly) is way faster than USB, though less portable. PCI transfer rates:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040514/e7505-chipsatz-03.html

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

Wait this is more accurate:

"With up to 130 MB/s transfer rate in both directions the same basic performance is provided on a notebook as a PCI card would offer on a desktop computer."

Taken from http://www.rme-audio.com/english/hdsp/cardpci.htm

superhero superheroOG 2004 ·

look at ian's response. it doesn't matter how fast a PCI card can transfer data, the networks moving at a max of 11 MB/sec

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004 ·

I concur.

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rocksupastarFounder ·

I would think it would be slower... or maybe im just dumb...

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