Can't live with 'em, can't send 'em all to Mars
by Women are here to break our hearts and then pull them out of our chests and then stomp on them and then laugh. They say they don't mean to or when you point it out to them they cry. Like it's your fault. I spilled this glass of water because you put it on the table and didn't move it out of my way.
All of this anti-male stuff. I think it's evenly matched. I think that there are a whole bunch of men and women who will tease the opposite sex and make them wonder why, why, why. I don't want to think about it all for a while...
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men are tougher yo
I got this forward and it was actually kinda funny. Her'es a piece of it:
Because I'm a man, when the car isn't running very well, I will pop the hood and stare at the engine as if I know what I'm looking at.
If another man shows up, one of us will say to the other, "I used to be able to fix these things, but now with all these computers and everything, I wouldn't know where to start." We will then drink beer.
Because I'm a man, when I catch a cold, I need someone to bring me soup and take care of me while I lie in bed and moan. You're a woman. You never get as sick as I do, so for you this isn't a problem.
we all moan in the same language
that was deep ty
men shouldn't cry. boys can cry. men shouldn't. it's totally a weakness. women should cry... but only if i break up with them.
this is interesting: gab and i were gonna read some Young People Ask book. i asked her what we should read and i joked 'how to get over a crush.' and she said, "i shoulda read that one a long time ago." i got snapped.
i say.. if you find a girl and she doesn't find it funny and sexy that you are doing cartwheels neked. DUmp her
its more like the other way around, guys are out to USE all the girls they can. at least in the world.
it's every-which-way around.
yea well honey, i got used alot cause i was easy. i equated sex with love.
what the heck did i know when i was 15.
we live and we learn. it's a blessing that some of us here were raised in the truth and won't have to learn the hard way, like so many have.
YOU ARE SO CORRECT. I envy u guys.
its SO good for you to realize that TIS a blessing..what age did you really start to feel that way? seriously! I want to kno.
i've been hearing about it all my life, but i suppose it's pretty recent that i really see that IS a blessing.
ok so how old are u???
i'm glad u finally did realize it, cause its true.
i'm 23
well I'm so very happy u feel that way(!) cause being brought up in the world, even tho my parents didnt know better, sux.
It's impossible and unreasonable to make that broad of a generalization. You have had a bad experience. However, I am sure there are guys who have had bad experiences with girls. These individuals are worldly and in the truth. It happens, it's wrong but thats the world we live in.
i think statistically though, guys in the world use girls in the world, more then vice versa...guys are more driven, and girls have a lot more to lose...but of course it happens both ways
I wouldn't say guys are more driven. And I think girls convince themselves that they have more to lose. Just because guys don't exhibit feelings the same way girls do doesn't mean they feel less.
...And then again, a guy can turn around and say girls are more manipulative and vengeful. Either way, pointing fingers at who is the meanest person in a relationship is pointless.
We definetly are more manipulative.
That's because most guys are too stupid to be able to manipulate someone.
yeah, when it comes to $$$$$$$. If HE had money he was MINE.
by saying girls have more to lose, i mean they can get pregnant...where as guys dont have to worry about that...also, there is a double standard for guys who sleep around, compared with girls
That's true, can't deny that. The double standard is definitely true too...it's gotta be if Christina Aguilera wrote a song about it. haha.
i love you, but that is a bad bad bad example!
Haha
haha, i can't stand that she wrote a song about that....if she wants to be respected for more then just her body...why on earth is she dressing like she does? ugh, she's lower then low
I know, just like Destiny's Child has a song called Nasty Girl
"Nasty put some clothes on, I told you, Don't walk out your house without your clothes one, I told you."
Self awareness is a problem with pop stars.
Guys may not feel less, but I think most guys handle emotional pressure better than most girls do.
I don't know if "handle...better" is the best way to phrase that. I think it's more ignore it. Girls handle emotional pressure in a very good way- they talk with their girl friends. This is healthier (for the body) then guys who drink or do other things to get rid of their problems.
I don't know if you understand what I mean. Under severe emotional pressure anyone will buckle, but what I'm talking about is more the amount of pressure needed to get a person to that point. It seems to me that it takes much less effort to upset a girl than it does to upset a guy.
I don't think this is true..girls just show it at a sooner point.
I thought that's what I was saying.
No no..you said it takes less to make a girl upset. I'm saying that I don't think there is a difference in the amount it takes to get either gender upset but the difference lies in the way and when they show it. A girl and a guy can both be upset, the guy can act indifferent about it while the girl may go and cry.
But acting indifferent isn't really showing the emotion, is it? I guess the reason I think this is that I've been thinking recently about why God decided to put men in the headship role. It's certainly not that we're any smarter or better at making decisions or at handling other people's emotions (or really at any of the actual duties involved in headship). The only thing I can think of is that men may be better at handling the emotional stress coming from knowing that they are responsible for someone else's life. I'd love to hear other people's opinions on this subject, though.
I don't know if i agree with that. Women are amazing at handling all kinds of emotional stress. And most women have a better pain threshhold than men. Also, tons of women are mothers, right? So they are also responsible for someone else's life. Just because women have hormones that makes them cry easier, I don't think it means that they deal with stress less effectively than men. Actually....crying relieves stress. Some men tend to bottle it up and then they may eventually explode or break down. I was just thinkin you don't hear of that many women dictators or serial killers or psychos. I duno. It just seems to me and I firmly believe that women are emotional strongholds and sometimes it's the men that are emotional wrecks they just hold it all inside so no one knows. I duno if this is right it's just my opinion.
I remember the scripture that states that the head of the woman is the man... used to INFURIATE ME. And then that day in pioneer school when we spent half the day discussing the headship principle... it was amazing and changed my view on a lot of things. I came out of that thinking, that women are precious in God's eyes just like an expensive heirloom vase (or something similar) would be precious to a person. I loved it when the brother said, that the woman is a "weaker vessel" as in, a beautiful delicate vase, wherein the man is like a metal bucket you can kick around and stuff. It doesn't mean that the woman is actually weaker in any sense. She just needs to be taken care of differently than the man. When the man and woman understand the headship principle it makes a beautiful pair that perfectly complements each other. It's amazing.
Why would it infuriate you? I'm absolutely dreading the fact that if I ever get married or ever have responsibility in the congregation that I'll be someone's head. It's just an incredibly scary thought. I always thought it was incredibly loving on Jehovah's part not to have women have to deal with that.
Well when I was younger, like 17-19 I was all big into feminist issues and all that kinda stuff. I was kinda rebellious in a sense that I thought I would never let any man tell me what to do. Of course my view of that whole thing was very distorted, and I've matured A LOT since then, and while I still feel strongly about women's issues and think women deserve a lot more respect than they get in this world.. it's not my fight, and women in the truth most of the time ARE respected by fellow brothers and sisters and treated like they should be. Worldly men are a whole diffrent story.
i think a lot of girls feel this way...and one of the things that matures them is falling in love...its natural for women to be in subjection...so i think it naturally comes along with be in love.
I know I definetly did. At first it's just the thought of having someone have power over you I think, but that's not really the idea behind headship. Subjection doesn't have to mean powerless, and I think not everyone understands that.
i agree w/ that..but i've never felt that way. the headship arangment never bothered me...it was always kinda comforting i felt.
and as far as why men are elders and such..i do think it has to do w/ because they are less emotional. because when they have to decide to have someone DFed or reproved or something..i think they will be able to think more clearly and base it on principles rather than emotions.
Yeah..with sisters doing it they'd be like "aww..but..." and nothing would ever get done most likely.
Women deserve a lot more respect. And as far as guys who mistreat women... Well, my dad likes to say that they deserve "two bricks and a rusty knife".
You really can't figure it out? The bricks are for smashing something (actually a couple of things) and the knife is for cutting something off.
Whoah! I don't think cutting their "winkie" off is really gonna solve the problem. Hmm..or maybe it will.
where? ;) I kno where the Mepham football team would put em.
i think that from a worldy standpoint that scripture would be almost offensive, but like you guys have said that's because worldly people don't follow godly principles. the way the marital and family arrangement works best Jehovah's way
Crying relieves stress in women. It doesn't help me. If anything it gets me angrier and angrier until I do explode. Holding it in is the only way to maintain control. And after you've held it in for a while, the pain just slips away. Actually I think there is a fundamental difference in the way men's and women's emotions work. I think it's probably better for women to get their emotions out and it's better for men to bottle them up. (Besides, I have to hold onto the belief that men do something better than women. Women are superior in so many respects that it's nice when I can find something that we're better at. :) )
haha that's a good way of putting it, lol.
Also, seeing guys cry, makes me feel weird sometimes. Like it depends why of course. But sometimes it's just very weird. Like Bruce Willis in his guest role on Friends that one time. SO weird.
a guy friend asked me one time what i would do if i walked in the room and saw him crying and i really did have to think about it for maybe 3 minutes because it would be sooo odd to see. how do you react?
Guys always say that eeing girls cry makes them flip out, and from experience it does, but seeing a guy cry totally makes me flip out. Oh my goodness. At the end of pioneer school we had this very reflective brother who was serious about the truth, comment first about what he got out of pioneer school, and he started getting choked up, and that set it off. Everybody was bawling!
But all things in moderation. My dad used to have a study that I've seen cry many times, and that's rare for a grown man. I used to question his emotional stability. And he turned out to be abusive.
this is such a good point. Men see women cry and so can react in a certain way. SOME women even complain about mens reaction to it. But some women do have a problem with it. I Mean seriously you don't have to deal with it. It's almost immediate that a women will cry if she sees a man crying. Or not, i'm just generalizing from experience. NOT that i'm a cryer or i ever have cried....
Wow..that's just what I was trying to get at. You put it perfectly. I cry a lot and it helps me release any pent up emotions in side so I don't have all that garbage floating around in my head.
yeah, i think it's a great feeling to be in subjection to someone you love
I just thought it was ironic that I would hear this song while reading this post:
A man ain't made of stone
A man ain't made of steel
The way I feel right now
I thought I'd never feel
Sometimes all it takes
Is facing the night alone
And that's when you know
A man ain't made of stone
I cryed RIVERS.
girl handling emotional pressure : crying, talking about it, eating chocolate, taking a walk, cleaning their house,
guy handling emotional pressure : punching a wall, punching bag or another person... drinking beer, driving fast,
hehe
That's what we spent like an hour in soc class the other day talking about..and how the way women handle stress is, in the end, healthier for their bodies. I love chocolate and it's magical healing powers.
especially hershey's dark chocolate! yum ;p
My question is, why can't we send them all to mars?
Girls don't mean to break your heart. If you're going thru a breakup, just be happy, it only means that the right one is still out there for ya. Haha, i duno, it sounded good in my head.
nooooo i think that if a girl breaks up with you .. you stopped making her smile and happy and aren't satisfying here that way she needs..
yeah so that only means that she needs someone else. And you need someone else. Kinda thing.
yup. or you need to get off your lazy behind and satisfy her.
yeah, but sometimes, what the girl needs, is just not what the guy IS. And if the guy just does whatever she wants for the time being, to keep her around, eventually the truth will come out, and THEN it's stupid.
This goes the other way around too. Girls pretending to be a certain way or whatever, only to realize years down the line that they're not happy. That's stupid too. It's actually smarter to just break up when you realize your'e not compatible.
yes it's all grey. no black and white. allll gray. grey and greay
yep.... relationships are hard work. Quoth the raven, nevermore.
thats why i always think....even if things aren't going good now...its okay, because EVENTUALLY, things are gonna work out.
(dan, why don't you mark this comment as stupid?)
becuase before you made it sound ilke you were talking about STICKING with a person, hoping things are eventually going to work out.
now, it's more like, if it's not working out with them, EVENTUALLY it will work out with SOMEONE. which i agree with.
well...if things clearly aren't going to work out, because somebody doesn't love you back...then i think you need to move on, because eventually you will find the right person for you.
BUT, if its other issues that cause the problems, and both people do love each other, then i think sticking to the person is a good thing...it may sound corny...but i think love can overcome obstacles (yeah, i was right...it does sound corny)
and....i dont see how it sounds i was talking about sticking to a person
boys go to jupiter to get more stupider, girls go to college to get more knowledge...
Lol. This is actually pretty funny to me because Jupiter is the name of a pretty popular bar in Berkeley.
thats why you party people. come onnn good times to be had.. dont get all caught up in this sad mushy stuff. be strong. and have fun .. woo hoooooooooooooooooooooo
here is the conclusion i've come to:
girls say boys are stupid, and boys say girls are stupid. The correct answer: Neither is stupid.
Anytime you are in a close relationship with a person, or anytime there are strong emotions involved, there are probably going to be hard times. So, while it might be easy to blame the problems, on the entire sex, it's really not that, its just that its impossible to get that close of a relationship with a person, and have everything go right all the time.
So, if i ever say boys are stupid...what i really mean is, having a close relationship involving emotions is hard, and at the moment...its not going the way i want.
Who labelled this comment stupid? Anyway, I think it's more that everyone is stupid in their own way, and you have to learn to deal with that if you're ever going to be successful.
i labeled it stupid. because it is.
just face it. people are stupid. it's time to GROW UP. so stop whining, move on, get a job, work hard, and respect yourself and your ablities.
HARSH. i actually agree with this somewhat. it was...fair.
yeah. but i'm kind of saying it to everyone - people put so much emphasis "we HAVE to make it work"...sure..if that person is worth fighting for. I think a lot of people aren't. You can tell pretty quickly if a person is, or not. If it goes smoothly - great. But if everything is a battle, you can't get married now anyway, etc... don't force it.
Courtney this was not directed at you at ALL...i didnt' mean it like that at all
Yeah, true. I agree with this too.
Well, even though calling whoever stupid because things aren't going your way is very immature, at least she explained herself. For that reason I think her comment is informative and I am tempted to change it...
you've already marked ONE thing as informative. don't be going all crazy.
Haha...I just thought the stupid tag was a little unfair that's all...I can't wait to use the redundant tag!!!
i can't WAIT to use the redundant tag!
thats not really what i meant...what i meant is that people say stupid things when they're upset...like when you're mad at your parents...you might say i hate them or something like that...but you dont mean it. Same thing with relationships...if you have a fight with your bf, you might say, boys are stupid. I just meant its one of those venting things that people do. I'm not really justifying it...and the last part was more of a joke then anything else, cause if i said boys are stupid...it wouldnt be because of anything serious...it'd be more of a joke.
if things were really not going my way, in a serious situation, i most definitely wouldn't resort to that. But, i could see how my comment above sounded like that...i just had to clear that up....
but....the part before the last part still stands...when people say ANYTHING bad about the opposite sex, it really shouldnt be aimed at just the opposite sex, because problems arent dependent on sex, they are in every close relationship
dan, if you're thinking of marking this as stupid too....remember, i know where you live
thank you dan hill, i'm glad you feel my beliefs are stupid. Now I am certain that they are correct.
hahah what validation!
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY!!!
it's inevitable