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Love and Death

thefunkyfresh by thefunkyfresh · Apr 20, 2004 · 143 views · Journal

I just saw a reallllly weird movie called "Love and Death", it's with Woody Allen and Diane Keaton. I'm sure most of you would hate it, because its just so not typical, and just very off the wall, but I thought it was great. There's a lot of really interesting dialog.

"Isn't all mankind ultimately executed for a crime it never committed? The difference is that all men go eventually, but I go six o'clock tomorrow morning. I was supposed to go at five o'clock, but I have a smart lawyer. Got leniency."

"And so I walk through the valley of the shadow of death. Actually, make that "I run through the valley of the shadow of death" -- in order to get OUT of the valley of the shadow of death more quickly, you see."

Boris: Sonia, what if there is no God?
Sonia: Boris Demetrivich, are you joking?
Boris: What if we're just a bunch of absurd people who
are running around with no rhyme or reason?
Sonia: But if there is no God, well, then life has no
meaning, why go on living, why not just commit suicide?
Boris: Well, let's not get hysterical, I could be wrong.
I'd hate to blow my brains out and then read in the papers
they'd found something.
Sonia: Boris, let me show you how absurd your position is.
Alright, let's say that there is no God and each man is free
to do exactly as he chooses. Well, well, what prevents you
from murdering somebody?
Boris: Well, murder's immoral.
Sonia: Immorality is subjective.
Boris: Yes, but subjectivity is objective.
Sonia: Not in any rational scheme of perception.
Boris: Perception is irrational and implies imminence.
Sonia: The judgment of any system or a prior relation of
phenomena exists in any rational or metaphysical or at least
epistemological contradiction to an abstract and empirical
concept such as being, or to be, or to occur, in the thing
itself or of the thing itself.
Boris: Yeah, I've said that many times.

"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore, to love is to suffer; not to love is to suffer; to suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be happy, one must love or love to suffer or suffer from too much happiness."

Bad Guy: Right! To the death!
Boris: Oh no, I can't do anything to the death. Doctor's orders. You see, I have this ulcer condition, and death is the worst thing for it.

Sonja: What are you suggesting, passive resistance?
Boris: No, I'm suggesting active fleeing.

Russian gentleman: So who is to say what is moral?
Sonja: Morality is subjective.
Russian gentleman: Subjectivity is objective.
Sonja: Moral notions imply attributes to substances which exist only in relational duality.
Russian gentleman: Not as an essential extension of ontological existence.
Sonja: Can we not talk about sex so much?

Anyway, i'm sure none of you bothered reading that, but it's funny that even though it's unnecessarily wordy and sarcastic (he does that for effect) he actually makes some good points. Interesting movie.

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11 Comments

forrestina #1 forrestinaOG 2002

was she in a few of his movies?

thefunkyfresh #1.1 thefunkyfreshFounder

yeah, she was in sleeper and Manhattan Murder Mystery, which were both really funny

forrestina #1.1.1 forrestinaOG 2002

yes! sleeper that was it. i haven't seen these other two.

ilikebirds #1.1.1.1 ilikebirdsOG 2002

what about the jews

yay yayOG 2004

they've been away for a week

iwz #2 iwz offtopic

dude. movie forum. come on now.

yay #2.1 yayOG 2004

you -> trashcan, and my biceps will put you there my waste is high

modestjesse #3 modestjesseOG 2004

I love Woody Allen, I find him to be a riot!

socalgal #3.1 socalgalOG 2003

me too.....annoyingly funny

thefunkyfresh #3.1.1 thefunkyfreshFounder

it's high brow and low brow comedy at the same time

fivezero #4 fivezeroOG 2003

woody allen is the master of dialogue, only challenged by quentin tarantino. but woody is a card all right

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