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toxicgirlOG 2003

If a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is around to hear it, does it still make a noise?

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

oh boy bring on the jokes

walkngplaygrnd walkngplaygrndOG 2003

this is the kind of question that should have a scientific answer . . . and i always hated science so i'm just gonna go with "YES"

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Like..I understand this question is supposed to provoke deep thought, but of course it still makes a noise. Just because no one hears it doesn't mean it isn't there!

tinser tinserOG 2002 redundant

absolutely not. I'm an existentialist. its all about perception.

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toxicgirlOG 2003

Wow, you've been dropping that word all over this site. I am impressed.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

i'm not! existentialists are selfish!

tinser tinserOG 2002

they could be...but they could be equally selfless

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

wait, i just noticed this. EQUALLY selfless? so you're selfishless is equal to your selflessness. does that make it right? because something like this doesn't cancel out with an equal measure of it's opposite.

i love talking mumbo jumbo semanitcs especially when we discuss a subject that has no basis, object of reference or standard.

tinser tinserOG 2002

haha, i know...its all semantics and existential thoughts are based on absolutely nothing...its amazing people can discuss something that doesn't exist in such depth. Anyway, it's selfish from some people's perspective, but it could be selfless from other people's perspective as well. For example, I don't exist. That's fairly selfless right? Denying my own existance, because Ho Chin from china has never met me? Oh, see....existentialism is great fun!

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

I exist. I think. Where can I find this Ho Chi!?

tinser tinserOG 2002

turn left when you get to china, then make three more lefts

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

by pointing out that the word is here.. you get apoint ? is that what it is

tinser tinserOG 2002

yep, ty is on the board

tinser tinserOG 2002

haha, thanks...twice in one day....thats a record for me

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

someone! use the redundant tag!

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

annnnnd by popular request: THIS TAG - modded "redundant"

malibu malibuOG 2001

no. sound is produces by the shape of your ear canals so when a human's ear is not there to make this occurance happen, no one hears it.

tinser tinserOG 2002

sounds like existentialism to me

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

point for me?

tinser tinserOG 2002

yeah, that was an old post...but nobody else claimed it...so it's all yours

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toxicgirlOG 2003

the chipmunks and deer prolly hear it fall tho

iwz iwz

well, that's only half-right. it depends on your definition of "sound".

if you use this definition:
"Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing. or Transmitted vibrations of any frequency."

then, yes, of course a sound is made.

but if you use this definition: "The sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium. "

then, no, there's no sound because no hearing organs are stimulated.

so, in the strictest technical sense, yes, there's still a sound. but the question is really just posed to make you think.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

thanks for the swell breakdown. i was THINKING that, but didn't feel like articulating, lol.

ophelia opheliaOG 2003

haha, exactly..the answer that that "age old" question is like so freakin obviouse - I don't know why it's so age old...the study of acoustics should of once & for all put an end to anybody ever asking this question again

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