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perrin Feb 5, 2004

The heart is more treacherous than anything else. I can attest to that. I'd have to say you need to use more reason that heart. I think escpecially in relationships you need to use more reasoning...

dgiaimo Feb 5, 2004

I agree with you. Except I'd push reason up a lot higher. Preferably closer to 70 or 80%.

tinser tinserOG 2002

wow, i agree with perrin maybe...but i think 70 or 80 is way too high...because i think i've made that mistake before...and it was a mistake

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Why do you think it's a mistake? To me, letting your heart decide anything seems to be a really bad idea, and it seems like it's a good idea to try to suppress it as much as possible.

tinser tinserOG 2002

because...it didn't work out...i was using so much reason to try to figure things out, and i forgot to put my heart into it also...oh, he's a good guy, oh he is spiritual, oh my parents like him, oh he has a nice personality....oops, i forgot to remember that i have to have feelings for him too

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dgiaimoOG 2003

I'd really love for someone to explain what that phrase "have feelings for" means. No, I'm not joking.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

If you're just using reasoning it can't work, you won't be happy! I think what Tinser said really covers it, you go "wow he's all these great things" turn around and realize you don't love him. You may care for him, but that's not enough you need to love. And also, if you let reason control you to much while you are in love you may mess up big time. Like, you love someone but reason tells you that you just don't make sense, you're not enough alike (the kind of stuff a friend would tell you) and you go on that..but you love them. Even if it doesn't always make sense love can make it work.

tinser tinserOG 2002

eXactly...love is the motivating force

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

uhuh. It's your head that produces doubts and if you are gonna be all rational then you won't survive.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Are we working under the same definitions of reason and heart? Cause I think both the head and the heart produce doubts. The difference is that when your head produces doubts you can reason through them deciding if they're really important and if you really have to deal with them, whereas when your heart produces doubts they're absolutely paralyzing preventing you from having any idea what to do until you get your head involved to sort out the mess.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

I don't understand. What do you think it mean to love someone if not to recognize all the great things about them? To me, love is a very reasoned thing, and something which the heart has little to do with.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

see, i think NOT letting your heart give you information is insane. go with your GUT instinct! what is your heart telling you? that doesn't necessarily mean you have to listen to what your heart says. sure, "the heart is treacherous". but it also "the seat of motivation". having passion about something or even someone, if it's regulated, can be a indicator of what path you may want to follow.

tinser tinserOG 2002

eXactly...you took the thoughts right out of my brain and put them into words. If you are only acting on reason, then what's the difference between that, and just a friend? I mean...nevermind....what dan said...he said eXactly what i meant. But...you still need some reason of course, but definitely more heart.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

hmm maybe this is a sign, tinser

tinser tinserOG 2002

a sign like the thing matt said?

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

hmmm yes. that's what i was thinking.

tinser tinserOG 2002

hmm, perhaps...

tinser tinserOG 2002

mike said the same thing, is that a sign too?

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

sounds like it. we'll run a test later.

tinser tinserOG 2002

haha, a test? intriguing

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

yes. let's move this to the EZ messages.

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toxicgirlOG 2003 skaorsk8

thank the lord for ez-messages, eh?

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toxicgirlOG 2003 toxicgirl

Daniel Hill!!!! You can't moderate a moderator! I'll smoke you for that.

tinser tinserOG 2002 toxicgirl

haha, thats like fighting fire with fire

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toxicgirlOG 2003 tinser

courtney, would you be a dear and help me gang up on him?

tinser tinserOG 2002 toxicgirl

haha, i can moderate his comments in movies/tv if you like

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003 tinser

i'll do it too. dan's gonna suddenly acquire a very vocal taste in gay culture.

tinser tinserOG 2002 fivezero

hahaha....poor dan...never saw it coming

dan, this is what you get what you mess with a girl who has a boyfriend

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 tinser

well that's no reason for you to start helping them!

tinser tinserOG 2002 skaorsk8

haha, yeah...i'm staying out of this...i can't afford to lose my moderating privleges...it's the first step in my 9 step plan to rule the universe

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 tinser

and how is that plan going for you so far?? it must be difficult to rule the universe from the inside of a mental instituion.

tinser tinserOG 2002 skaorsk8

you're right...it is hard, maybe i should give up and start changing some skaorsk8 comments after all

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Maybe it's different for you, but I find that what my heart tells me I want changes so radically from day to day and hour to hour, that it's simply an unreliable source of information on the subject.

beachbum beachbumOG 2002

i agree w/ going w/ instinct. there is a difference between heart/emotions and heart/instinct. your instincts are almost always right, but unfortunately often ignored.

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