try having a d/f kid. so many of the kids she grew up with are d/f too.
haha i have no starship. i do feel bad. i've been d/f. i know what it does to the family.
did you even read dan's comment? he brought up a good point for us all to work on.
i felt her pain right away. just b/c i reacted the way i did SHOWS empathy cause i know the pain a d/f loved one or friend causes. excuse me for being human.
"try having a d/fed kid"
means...."you aren't that bad off. Try having a d/fed kid".
it's ok to admit you came across inappropriately. part of being human. and adult.
i didnt mean TRY having one.....i meant its hard on a woman who has carried that baby inside herself, vowing to have her serve Jah, then her turning 360 (or is it 180) and becoming pretty much not wanting to come back. THATS why i said u wouldnt understand, and expected ur reply.
Yeah, it was rough on my mom, she couldn't even go to the meeting the night it was announced. This is the third time one of her kids has been DF'd. I was the first. I think my family is just cursed. :P
yeah i didnt either.
I was there when they announced it for me, and he was there when they announced it for him. That was rough, especially last week cause I don't think ANYONE suspected it. Shoot, I was blown away when I found out.
rough, isnt it?
Yeah, back in '94 right after high school. I was lieing about what was going on for over year. I had a real bad attitude. I didn't come back till after I was married in '99. I went to the assembly that my sister-in-law got baptized at and that triggered me to get my life in gear. I quit smoking that day, one of the hardest things I ever had to do in my life. It was no cake walk. I kept falling into pit after pit.
glad ur back tho! did u think its harder to first come into the truth, or be reinstatted?
I was raised in the truth so I can't really answer that. I was baptized at 12. It's funny though, when I was DF'd I never felt comfortable in the world. Their morals are just all screwed up. I was reinstated on a sunday too, that was interesting.
well i dont know u but I'm glad ur back. it gives hope for other young ones.
i found it harder to get reinstated b/c its easy to love God but not to hate wrong. and i wasnt raised by Godly standards even tho my parents did the best they could.
Thanks, good to be back. Yeah, when I was DF'd I picked up other bad habits that I never had before (drugs, smoking, immorality) so stopping them was very difficult. But once you put your mind to it, with Jehovah's help (because you can't do it alone) things came together.
man... it's so crazy that that can happen being raised in the truth. satan just has so many temptations, i'm sure once u start getting reeled in, ur forget all the stuff u learned. glad you're back buddy, excellent.
that has got to be the hardest thing to sit through (for yourself).
Yup, because you're sitting there filled with embarrasment and shame.
i think dan knows what you meant. what he is telling you is when someone is feeling bad, don't talk about how bad your life is. Empathize and tell them you are sorry they are in so much pain. Try to help them w/ some constructive ways to ease their pain. It's just that you come across as if your problems are so much worse than everyone else's that it's like their feelings are invalid or just an overreaction compared to how things COULD be.
well then i'm much mizunderstood. ce'st la Vie
and btw i corresponded with Violet and she wasnt bent outta shape.
i did, to HER. I owe U nothing
did you guys know that sympathy and empathy are actually 2 different things? Points to whoever can explain the diff without consulting dictionary.com
i can...but i dont care enough to
Matt, i know what you mean because i sometimes want to test the knowledge of the ezablers. But as a new yorker i'm miffed by the lack of vocabulary and spelling by a lot of people on here...
sympathy is feeling bad for someone for a reason
empathy is actually taking on those feelings, and sharing their pain.
i know, i had the instruction talk on this a couple of weeks ago.
u got it backwards dude. nice job misleading the congregation.
i thought he was close. isn't empathy when you can sympathize b/c you can relate from personal experience to what the person is feeling?
ohhh...wrong again mr. kelly...
em·pa·thy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mp-th)
n.
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives. See
sym·pa·thy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smp-th)
n. pl. sym·pa·thies
A relationship or an affinity between people or things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the other.
Mutual understanding or affection arising from this relationship or affinity.
yeah, that's not really the right way to express it though.
if your cat died, and i tell you "i'm sorry - that really sucks" - that's sympathy. i feel bad for you.
but if your cat died, and i say "maaaan. tell me what it feels like. i want to understand. and then, when i do understand, we can work through it together..." that's empathy.
And then when you say that I say, man it's just a cat, stop being so ghey. :P (kidding, trying to lighten up the mood)
go for it jess... no more negativety guys - it's all good!
YEAH AH EYEAH YEAH I'm going to Hawaii... say it, it'll make you smile.
Dans right....sorry funky...wasn't there an article in the WT on this a while back?
yeah there was one about three years ago - questions from readers im thinking.
There was a part on the service meeting I think maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago about empathy.
Ask Perrin, he had the assignment.
actually empathy is more so... i've been there.. i truly understand.. and feel it..
sypathy you haven't expereienced it. but feel the pain.
i win. you got serv'd
guys... you're all confused. i took Helpdesk Analyst training and they told us: empathize but don't sympathize. you empathize, u say, hey i'm sorry you're having a problem. you sympathize, you take on the emotions of the situation and share them with the person.
What Is Empathy?
One dictionary says that empathy is the "identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives." It has also been described as the ability to put oneself in the other fellow's place. So empathy requires first of all that we comprehend the circumstances of someone else and second that we share the feelings that those circumstances provoke in him. Yes, empathy involves our feeling another person's pain in our heart.
go to www.watchtower.org
wow... now i'm confused. i can't think about this anymore
i'm telling you empahty is when you fullly understand the pain... for instance being through the problem already yourself.
and sympathy is understanding it from outside the actual pain.. etc
WHO CARES anyway you say empahty or sympathy and people will think you are right. and not say anything.
very good ty. don't forget your 5 o'clock pill.
DUDE! you're getting it backwards! read the definition! comprehend it!!
no see, here it is... dan has empathy for matt cause they are both GHEY!!! all of you shutup!!! the point is that ty is asian, im hot, and ian is an evil dictator!!! We need to channel all this hate and energy at the the person that deserves it... THE MAN!!!! and that man.... is iwz... make him PAY for changing the musings view, and taking away chat, and removin the GAMES section... Do it for GFS Rocks... do it for yourself....
i liked your whole plan, except for the "do it for GFS Rocks" part...
ian, where's the games server already?!?
I don't know what you're talking about, but I have a game server on my ezabel when I log-in.
seriously??? you lie!!
No, the link for it is right between Forums and Events at the top. I haven't clicked on it yet though, should I check it out?
i don't have it!! how do you have it??
I don't know. I do not question the higher ezabel beings because then they make my musings box dance! I'm not even gonna use it anyways, I don't like computer games too much.
you must be playing a trick, because i don't have it either
it better not be another trick that hates on "musings view" people!!
That would make sense but I have it and I'm a musing view person.
We're not uber cool yet...