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starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

u kno Hitler killed so many Jews, JWs etc. ALot of his people were behind him. So then, should we all be anti German?
Oh then I'd have to hate myself and my dad and my brother etc etc.

tinser tinserOG 2002

i bet you can look into history and find a reason for hating any nationality. (Ie: the jews, the germans, what about england for sucking the marrow out of the american colonies? or what about americans for mistreating the natives?) But, it's history, so it's dumb....a non-issue. Present and future count...the past...is done.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

sooooooooooooo true.
so, Jews, stop whinin!

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

I'm a really big fan of Japan and as a Junior in High School I mentioned that once in History class. All these boys started freakin out and yelling at me and getting really angry. They all hate Japan because of what the Japanese did to American soldiers in WWII and I told them that was the dumbest thing and if they were going to feel that way then I was going to decide to hate the British for coming to America during the Revolutionary war and killing Americans.

tinser tinserOG 2002

that is retarded. Japan is still paying for it anyway, so it's not like they aren't being punished, haha, although their punishment has done wonders for their economy.

juicymango juicymangoOG 2003

and not to mention, millions of them were killed/affected by the two atom bombs we dropped. They don't show THAT in "Pearl Harbor"

malibu malibuOG 2001

we were just talking about this in my history class. the fact of the atomic bomb. u.s. being the only country to EVER use an atomic bomb. the fact was that out of how everyone thinks hiroshima was a military base: our of 155,000 people there were only 41,000 military people there. and that's not even where the bombers dropped the bomb. they dropped it in the middle of civillian downtown area. and the fact that there were 3 other very viable options to stopping the war without dropping the bomb. but they just didn't wanna wait or accept any surrender that wasn't unconditional so truman just did what his corrupt counsel told him to do.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Well, you could also argue that it stopped the war with a minimum of casualties, albeit civilian casualties. A full-on invasion of Japan by U.S. forces would very likely have caused much more loss of life than the bombs did.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Yeah, that's the view I always heard in History class.

tinser tinserOG 2002

that's what i have to write a history paper on this semester....i'm still not sure which viewpoint i want to take

malibu malibuOG 2001

yeah but the point was that we weren't going or planning to invade japan. we say that now but the truth was they were ready to surrender. they said in tons of "secret" diplomatic messages (we cracked their codes) they had no airforce, navy, and deplted militia. russia was a week away from beginning to fight them like they promised they would in the meeting in Iran. the japs also already said they would surrender as long as we assured them that their emperor would not be hurt since he's their god. there was one other resaon too of why if we had waited a few more days the war would have stopped by itself.

malibu malibuOG 2001

have you heard about this new chain of japense thats going on? apparently now china is threatening them with bombs so they're going to form a human chain of protest across 119 miles (i remmber it was over 100 miles but i can't remember how many) across japan in protest. does this make sense?

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