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skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

you know what else was demonized? a wrinkle in time, those books..i forget who wrote them. never occurred to me at the time, though.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

Madeline L'Engle wrote them...and how were they demonized? one of them fictionalizes the Flood

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

as far as i remember, that was the book where those kids could travel around space in the 4th dimension.... and those 3 witches helped them.. and there was that big brain that controlled everything, right? is that hte right book, and you are asking what made it demonized?

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

i thought they weren't really witches---isn't that just what people THOUGHT they were? i'm just saying that in comparison to a series such as narnia which actually says Jesus name in the last book that those books aren't as bad. should we not read greek mythology because it talks about other gods? or should we not read classics like Catcher in the Rye because there's premarital sex?

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

I enjoy greek mythology. i dont know if thats 100% wrong. i know to an extent people might say or view it as wrong. but i read it as clever stories created to try to explain the world at the time. i mean if you look into it as mere fables and stories . i dont see how it's all that bad. i took a class on greek mythology.

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

i think thats more history, in my opinion anywyas.. well ty if you start believing in Zeus and all those other gods, you MAY have a problem.

deanh77 deanh77Founder

man, the greek gods were all demons and the half-breeds (achilles, hercules, etc.) were nephilim anyway. but the stories were still interesting.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

yea i'm with you on that. you know whats a good poem to read, THE ODDYSEY. i loved that book.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

sooo you're saying Zeus isn't realll ??? it's really not history...
it's stories. just stories people created to try to explain the world. like a sunrise is apollo draging the sun up on his horse. the sky is held up by atlas. the seasons are when d****** sees her daughter that was taken by hades. etc. etc. it's just stories. i think YOU have a problem.

deanh77 deanh77Founder

Zeus is as real as the demons. ghosts are real,they are demons. aliens are real, they are demons.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

can we not say the "D" word plese. thanks... now move along old chap.

sorry I'll be all cool and say "demo"

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

hahaha i guess i sounded stupid trying to make my point

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

nah, def not, ty is just odd... lol

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

i guess what i'm taking away from this journal is that we should be careful of what we read because sometimes things aren't blatantly obvious. when it comes down to it-what you chose to read is your choice-conscience matter.

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 forrestina

YOU tell em sis! (is dune bad?)

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ok4now

i've been meaning to read dune-unfortunately i saw the tv movie first =( hate seing movie before reading the book

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002

i don't remember the sex in citr...just a couple of eff words. MAN i used to love that book.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

correct me if im wrong someone but i thought there was sex...it's a great piece of writing though.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

catcher in the rye. thats with holden caulfield correct? hmm never liked the book, over rate piece of crap if you ask me. hmm look at me look at me.. i'm playing blitzkrieg.. hmmm hmmm..

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

why don't you tell us your real opinion ty? ;)

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

seriuosly... i really liked the boook .....

for me too POOP ON.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ilikebirds

i dont know i was never into those teenager angst. look at me and my sad story, type of book. why would i want to read that. so that it makes me sad ? no ! give me action , adventure, something funny. something cool. drama and sadness? no need to read about it. i can live that.

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 ilikebirds

honestly the only reason i read it was so i could do a paper on it for english. the zero wouldv'e given me an eff for the class. after reading it though, i really liked it. i used to think that I was the catcher in the rye... (maybe i still do)

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002 ok4now

I read it because I was told you have to read it before your 20 or you just don't appreciate it and almost everyone who reads it thinks that they're Holden

malibu malibuOG 2001 thatdarngirl

another one of those books is Catcher 22 right? i so appreciate his aimless ramblings all the time. so hard to read though, you constantly have to remember where you left off, who people are, what's going on. very confusing but thoroughly enjoyable, so far.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 malibu

maybe you're thinking of Catch 22?

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 forrestina

i heard an interview with the author...it was originally called 'Catch 18' but there was another book released the same year with the number 18 in the title, so he changed it to 22. it's hard to imagine things as 'a catch 18'... :/

well im a total bookworm cus i like coming of age stories. i also read books that i dont like the plot of just for the sake of reading a well written novel.

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002

are you thinking of the time holden brings a hooker to his hotel room? they just talked...

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002

maybe that was it? i thought he slept with a girlfriend or something though...guess i'll be rereading this

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002

let me know...i have to get back to the dune series...i'm up to the 3rd book.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ok4now

good series then?

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 forrestina

oh yeah...the first book was definately way better than the movie, but when i watched it after reading the book, i could see that it's tough to adapt to screen. there's so much about character development and history and esp. everyone talking to themselves... anyway, the 2nd book (children of dune) was way cool. it's a great diversion from all the lotr going around.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ok4now

yeah im gonna have to check those books out...they are doing a movie of the second book as well

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 forrestina

i didn't hear that...at this point i'd only let peter jackson have a go at it...

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ok4now

yeah i don't remember when they're premiering it though...

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003 ok4now

The first book was AMAZING! That is my favorite novel. He created a whole universe, languages planets etc... And there is all of the classic stories, love story, etc. all in one book. I couldn't bring myself to read the second one because of what i heard....

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 hunkpapap

which was??? 

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003 ok4now

That they kill off paul atriedes....

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 hunkpapap

ahhh, but DO they? u've got to at least read the 2nd novel.

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 hunkpapap

that sounds really good...does anyone like the Ender series?

ekulu ekuluOG 2002 forrestina

it's series? didn't know tha. only saw the one book. i need to start reading again. i'm becoming unlettered and ordinary

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ekulu

Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xeoncide, Children of the Mind

ekulu ekuluOG 2002 forrestina

one word, maybe two : LOGAN'S RUN but don't read it, hehe

ok4now ok4nowOG 2002 ekulu

i've seen the movie...pretty bizzare

ekulu ekuluOG 2002 ok4now

yea the movie was bizzare enough, but, um, the book...it was quite different. particulkarly unwholseome

forrestina forrestinaOG 2002 ekulu

i'm reading a good book by the same author Orson Scott Card called Enchanted---it's kind of a play on the folk tale of Baba Yaga

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