The Chronicles of Narnia
by Everybody used to read these books as a child. If i remember correctly we were required to read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Anyway these narnia books were the books of my childhood and i loved to read them. A lot of the books even have many bible refrences which i find cool to figure out. So i went to the library the other day and checked out The Dawn Treader cuz its my favorite one. In the book when they sail to the end of the world they find a guy who they discover is a fallen star. Each day the birds bring him a piece of the sun to reduce his old age until the year he was young enough to regain the constellations. When they all seemed shocked at the thought of meeting a fallen star, he tells them they already met one on another island. They say that he wasn't that old and the birds didn't bring him anything so he responded that this man was not a fallen star but a removed star. He did something wrong tha he was punished to Earth to rule over these one-legged people as a punishment. They ask the old man what sin did this star commit and his response was that "It is not right for any sons of Adam to know waht is forbidden for a star." Recently i have just been trying to think of reasons of why a star would be removed. Now i realize its just a child's book, but it is one of my favorites and this has always bothered me. What can a star do wrong?
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a fallen star is the same thing as a demon
my older sister used to read these books, but she didn't catch on until the last of the series that they were basically someone's theology masquerading as children's literature.
yo seriously I never read any of these books because they were demonized.
What about Lord of thr Rings, the trilogy?
Its more of a sci-fi fairy tale to me. If one can watch the Wizard of Oz then why not LOTR?
I haven't watched The Wizard of Oz since coming into the truth, since it deals with witches, fairies, wizards, magic, etc...
Well quite a few elders and servents in my cong have seen the Wiz and LOTR so I guess thats a conscience matter huh?
I would hope not, but it seems like it is... personally, I stay away from stuff like that, plus many Disney movies like Snow White, and TV shows that deal with witchcraft... but that's me I guess and I don't want to sound like I'm judging...
wow, i never heard of that story. that reminds me of the children's rhymes with disturbing themes:
ring around the rosey, a pocket full of posies
ashes, ashes, we all fall down
three blind mice: she cut off their tails with a carving knife
Ring round the rosies was from the days of the plague. Ring around the rosie was the redness you'd get. Technically the next line was a-tishoo a-tishoo we all fall down. There was sneezing and then they'd die. it was a rhyme written by children about it....
yeah i was never allowed to sing those songs because it ws disrespectful to those who had died from the plague.
well those books actually were written by a born again theologian.. so he was speaking about falling stars from heaven and as said, masurading it as a childrens book, i personally only read one of the books and being that it was soo weird, i never read another one.
how did u guys come across these books in the first place?
required reading in 6th grade i think
at Pagan Junior High?
no actually, everyone i know had to read those books... maybe you are just too old to remember it, OR they didnt have the print press yet... lol
hahah that was a good one. hahaha.. man. i love you
hardy har har...we read james and the giant peach, and watership down
I read all the books in like 4th/5th grade. at the time I loved them. PBS had movies of all of them and that ruled. I guess looking back they were questionable but at the time I read anything I could get my hands on and they were all sitting there in the elementary school library. I loved them.
you know what else was demonized? a wrinkle in time, those books..i forget who wrote them. never occurred to me at the time, though.
Madeline L'Engle wrote them...and how were they demonized? one of them fictionalizes the Flood
as far as i remember, that was the book where those kids could travel around space in the 4th dimension.... and those 3 witches helped them.. and there was that big brain that controlled everything, right? is that hte right book, and you are asking what made it demonized?
i thought they weren't really witches---isn't that just what people THOUGHT they were? i'm just saying that in comparison to a series such as narnia which actually says Jesus name in the last book that those books aren't as bad. should we not read greek mythology because it talks about other gods? or should we not read classics like Catcher in the Rye because there's premarital sex?
I enjoy greek mythology. i dont know if thats 100% wrong. i know to an extent people might say or view it as wrong. but i read it as clever stories created to try to explain the world at the time. i mean if you look into it as mere fables and stories . i dont see how it's all that bad. i took a class on greek mythology.
i think thats more history, in my opinion anywyas.. well ty if you start believing in Zeus and all those other gods, you MAY have a problem.
man, the greek gods were all demons and the half-breeds (achilles, hercules, etc.) were nephilim anyway. but the stories were still interesting.
yea i'm with you on that. you know whats a good poem to read, THE ODDYSEY. i loved that book.
sooo you're saying Zeus isn't realll ??? it's really not history...
it's stories. just stories people created to try to explain the world. like a sunrise is apollo draging the sun up on his horse. the sky is held up by atlas. the seasons are when d****** sees her daughter that was taken by hades. etc. etc. it's just stories. i think YOU have a problem.
Zeus is as real as the demons. ghosts are real,they are demons. aliens are real, they are demons.
can we not say the "D" word plese. thanks... now move along old chap.
sorry I'll be all cool and say "demo"
hahaha i guess i sounded stupid trying to make my point
nah, def not, ty is just odd... lol
i guess what i'm taking away from this journal is that we should be careful of what we read because sometimes things aren't blatantly obvious. when it comes down to it-what you chose to read is your choice-conscience matter.
YOU tell em sis! (is dune bad?)
i've been meaning to read dune-unfortunately i saw the tv movie first =( hate seing movie before reading the book
i don't remember the sex in citr...just a couple of eff words. MAN i used to love that book.
correct me if im wrong someone but i thought there was sex...it's a great piece of writing though.
catcher in the rye. thats with holden caulfield correct? hmm never liked the book, over rate piece of crap if you ask me. hmm look at me look at me.. i'm playing blitzkrieg.. hmmm hmmm..
why don't you tell us your real opinion ty? ;)
seriuosly... i really liked the boook .....
for me too POOP ON.
i dont know i was never into those teenager angst. look at me and my sad story, type of book. why would i want to read that. so that it makes me sad ? no ! give me action , adventure, something funny. something cool. drama and sadness? no need to read about it. i can live that.
honestly the only reason i read it was so i could do a paper on it for english. the zero wouldv'e given me an eff for the class. after reading it though, i really liked it. i used to think that I was the catcher in the rye... (maybe i still do)
I read it because I was told you have to read it before your 20 or you just don't appreciate it and almost everyone who reads it thinks that they're Holden
another one of those books is Catcher 22 right? i so appreciate his aimless ramblings all the time. so hard to read though, you constantly have to remember where you left off, who people are, what's going on. very confusing but thoroughly enjoyable, so far.
maybe you're thinking of Catch 22?
i heard an interview with the author...it was originally called 'Catch 18' but there was another book released the same year with the number 18 in the title, so he changed it to 22. it's hard to imagine things as 'a catch 18'... :/
well im a total bookworm cus i like coming of age stories. i also read books that i dont like the plot of just for the sake of reading a well written novel.
are you thinking of the time holden brings a hooker to his hotel room? they just talked...
maybe that was it? i thought he slept with a girlfriend or something though...guess i'll be rereading this
let me know...i have to get back to the dune series...i'm up to the 3rd book.
good series then?
oh yeah...the first book was definately way better than the movie, but when i watched it after reading the book, i could see that it's tough to adapt to screen. there's so much about character development and history and esp. everyone talking to themselves... anyway, the 2nd book (children of dune) was way cool. it's a great diversion from all the lotr going around.
yeah im gonna have to check those books out...they are doing a movie of the second book as well
i didn't hear that...at this point i'd only let peter jackson have a go at it...
yeah i don't remember when they're premiering it though...
The first book was AMAZING! That is my favorite novel. He created a whole universe, languages planets etc... And there is all of the classic stories, love story, etc. all in one book. I couldn't bring myself to read the second one because of what i heard....
that sounds really good...does anyone like the Ender series?
it's series? didn't know tha. only saw the one book. i need to start reading again. i'm becoming unlettered and ordinary
Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xeoncide, Children of the Mind
one word, maybe two : LOGAN'S RUN but don't read it, hehe
i'm reading a good book by the same author Orson Scott Card called Enchanted---it's kind of a play on the folk tale of Baba Yaga
i heard cinderella is all demonized. like the mother is this evil witch. and the talking mice ? come on.. how do mice talk without supernatural scary powers...?? and the fat white lady that changes pumpkins into carriages ?
thats crazy demonized.
u guys watch MTV? U guys listen to popular music? All of that is as demonized as these stories you're talking about!!!
never read that, our schools dont do that lameness
i read all the narnia books, but yeah, there's definitely definitely religious overtones that you just don't understand when you're young
I never heard of these