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thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

if your family is related to the royal family in spain, how are you 100% italian?? oh wait i forgot, spanish people are italian!

tesoro tesoroOG 2001

as far back as we can trace, everyone is italian, my gramma always told me that, maybe one of my ITALIAN relatives married someone spanish. I mean, if yo want to get techinical, i'm sure i have .02% peruvian and .003% czeck in me too, cuz after all, we ALL do have the same ancestors.

malibu malibuOG 2001

the hasburg family came to be the royal family in spain after i forget which family died out and they were austrian and italian. there's a hole section of madrid called new madrid where the hasburgs ruled from because they werent purebred enough to rule in the old part because their austrian and italian heritage. maybe somewhere in there is where jahanna fits in.

tesoro tesoroOG 2001

haha! SWEET! thankyou for the clarification dear! hehe

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Yeah..and there's the whole "hapsburg" and "habsburg" family thing..they're both the same tho I think I just spelled them wrong. Buncha inbreds ruling over all of Europe.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Thats just one little part of it.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

I'm getting all into this. Accroding to Wikipedia (best site ever!) the Hapsburgs ruled:
As Holy Roman Emperors
Austria
Hungary
Spain
Portugal
Bohemia

It seems to have originated in Switzerland. They ruled the Imperial Throne of Rome from 1273-1291, 1298-1308, 1438-1740 and 1745-1806.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapsburg

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003

Ok, so when the bookstudy mentioned this week how there were empires that ended after world war one, this was one of the major three it was speaking of..

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Aw, you guys don't have history buffs in your bookstudy? At mine we got all into it- naming different nations that we new of. I just took Modern Western Civ this past semester so I remembered a lot of stuff.

A lot of the great empires were around until WWI- that's when they finally crumbled. However, before that they had been on the decline ever since the French Revolution which was truly the start of the people trying to force a democratic system upon monarchies.

After WWI the map of Europe was re-drawn like a kid with crayons. Whole empires were dissolved and new nations were formed based on groups of people (and cultures) instead of just this monarch wanted that land. So, the Ottoman Empire (which was truly still the remnant of the Holy Roman Empire) was dissolved. The Austria-Hungary Empire was dissolved. Poland came out of nowehre. Germany became a nation instead of part of an Empire. Crazy stuff.

deanh77 deanh77Founder

I'm reading a book set in the 1600's and they talk about the royal families of europe. they were all ridiculously inter-related. And often inbred.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

If you look at the Royal families of Europe as of the start of WWI they were pretty much all related. The King's of England, Germany and Russia were all first cousins.

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