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flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder

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M
monsterEst. 2006

Hmm...

Is this really new? Hydrogen burners have
been around for a few years...

http://www.bmwworld.com/hydrogen/

Who might be doing all this electrolysis? What's power source nuclear... Coal? And how might they be storing all this hydrogen without being a bomb?

I DO like most of the ideas coming out of Iceland, using the geothermal energy to produce the hydrogen.

This just seems like a slow news day... with a local company, with a mediocre idea.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder

did you watch the other stuff?

M
monsterEst. 2006

Oooh, sorry TJ, I didn't mean to sound harsh (but after rereading I did).. but water is not an energy source... the electricity that is separating the water is... so I am a little bewildered as to the 'car', perhaps a really long extension cord. :-p

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder

Oh, I didn't take it harshly, lol, but it did sound a little rough. anyways.

*shrug* cars use electricity. Start the current with a battery, recharge with an alternater. It's not that much different. Hydrogen can be used as a power source, but so can water. Rockets that go to space use liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, and combine them with a spark to blast off. (this doesn't include the solid rocket fuel boosters that they use). Water is a viable source of energy.

M
monsterEst. 2006

Some interesting reading...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_production

Hydrogen may also be produced from water using huge amounts of electricity (by electrolysis) or heat (by thermolysis).

Note the word huge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine

I would counter that 'Water is not a viable source of energy' but a vehicle to store energy from other sources.

I am willing to learn.. I would love to have a water powered car! :-)

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder

I think viable needs to be defined.

Viable as in truly possible or Viable as in practical. I guess then practical needs to be defined, too. Practical as in possible, no matter what the cost. Or practical as in possible, but not reasonably worth the effort needed to acheive it.

M
monsterEst. 2006

I contend that water, the element, by it self does not contain energy. (outside of the nuclear level i.e. breaking apart the atom). So... I say that it is isn't viable or practical, it is impossible to use water as an energy source.

I do though concede that many use the term water power loosely for more than just the element. i.e. Tidal, Run force, Pumped storage, Dam/Turbine.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder monster

I agree with this.

i could imagine if you guys drank together . . . the conversations would be completely hilarious, yet deep and still somewhat technically impressive.

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder flomojopoanode

but I contend that the components that make up water can be used react together, and thus act as fuel.

http://chemmovies.unl.edu/chemistry/redoxlp/a01.html

It might be on the atomic level, but I'm not terribly sure. I know the 2 Hydrogen atoms "borrow" some of the electons from the Oxygen atom... I don't know if this has anything to do with it or not, I'm just saying. 2H2 + O2 --> 2H2O :D

The fact is, though, that if you burn a combo of hydrogen and oxygen, the result is quite explosive, and the by-product is water (in a vapor form).

Search "sparked" on this page:
http://www.krysstal.com/reactions.html

M
monsterEst. 2006 flomojopoanode

¡Absolutamente! El hidrógeno es muy volátil. Así el agua se puede utilizar como una batería... que lo divide en el hidrógeno y el oxígeno, hasta que la energía es necesaria. Solamente entonces volviendo al agua justa.

M
monsterEst. 2006 iwz

I think the comments on this blog are sufficient.

His secret... water AND electricity

LOL

If I were going for a Water powered car I would choose this one...

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