OK..i am offically out of retirement for this one. FIRST. the current "rock" muzak scene, ie: daughtry, nickelback, hinder, etc...Its ready made and disposable. Formulaic and predictable. The hambuger helper of music. As a musician, there is nothing more boring than this. When i hear Avril Levigne's rip off of "Hey Mickey" in her bridge, I knew it was coming and im unpleasantly surprised. While i take issue with Indie at times, (like when its wierd just for the sake of being wierd), it acts as a bit of a sorbet to fall out boy or anything else that the radio SHOVES down your throat. (as proof of this, have you ever heard of a song that Z100 plays 50 times a day not do well?!? no.) And you are right, much of indie is not catchy. BUT CATHY-NESS IS THE OPIATE OF THE MUSIC LISTENER!! Being catchy is number 5 on a top 7 list for any real musician. I do like some mainstream. and I do like some indie. But its risky to use the words you use about indie music, because it exposes your ignorance about it a bit. And if you compare mainstream music to wine, mainstream stuff at large is the "Arbor Mist" of the industry...tastes good and sweet, gets the girls all giggly, but its lacking quality. Just pick up a Pavement ablum or two and re-evaluate where you're at. Im back.
OMG thank you...i could NOT think of the tune avril's song was like.
I wish i could forget it. I wake up at 2:00 am with ther night terrors because of that song.
lol.. did you hear she's being sued by like 2 different artists for stealing their songs or whatever, haha, i love it
Ignorance, I've listened to the groups people put on a pedestal in here. It's not easy listening a lot of times. Isn't that what good music is about? Being able to listen to it over and over again? Personally I think Daughtry is great. And I don't listen to most of today's mainstream crap. Daughtry just happens to be one of the few I like from today. And I don't listen to the radio. I go to Walmart look at the CD's and listen to the clips to see if I like it. I used to listen to 105.5 a lot when I was Alex's age, and they played a lot of stuff I liked. But it wasn't Indie. It was good rock, not the 95.5 or Z100 crap. So when I'm talking mainstream "wine", it's not Avril Lavigne or Christina Agulera.
No, good music is not at all about easy listening for many, many people. Maybe for you, but for me, its different. And to say "I don't listen to most of today's mainstream crap" and " I go to Walmart look at the CD's and listen to the clips to see if I like it" in the same sentence is an oxymoron. Try exposing yourself to a record store, not a tower records or sam goody or target and you wont have to decide between what major labels put out and what the smaller divisions of major labels put out.
Just because I go to Walmart, doesn't mean I'm buying a new album. It could be something I've wanted for many years, but just never got around to purchasing. And if music isn't pleasant to your ears, then why bother listening? Some of the stuff you guys like sounds like a veloci-raptor mating call. It doesn't flow. Maybe to you it does, but to me, no way.
It's all perception. Different things are pleasant to different people. Just like different foods. Yeh, maybe something like Super Furry Animals might sound off to this one or that one. Personally, I've gotten teary-eyed over Super Furry Animals' songs and have even cried (and no, not 'cause I couldn't stand the music, it's because they're music strikes an emotional chord with me) and maybe to others their music might just seem silly. Even the Welsh speaking songs, where I can't understand what they're saying hits me in a special way. Different music gets different reactions from different people. Music is a form of art. At an art gallery not everyone loves a certain painting or certain form of art. Some like surrealism, some like impressionism, some like pop art, so on and so on. Maybe more people like Monet, but does that make Dali a no good artist with not as much talent as Monet 'cause he doesn't appeal to the masses?
some people like van gogh, some like thomas kincaid...
Good analogy using artists. So to the masses those artists are better, because their genius appeals to more people. That's the point I'm getting at.
so thomas kincade is better a better artist than sandro botticelli because he sells more artwork?
yeah
Actually I find it extremely paradoxical that you say you enjoy the music of Pink Floyd with everything you seem to stand for. hehe
Pink Floyd is legendary.
Ignorance, I've listened to the groups people put on a pedestal in here. It's not easy listening a lot of times. Isn't that what good music is about? Being able to listen to it over and over again? Personally I think Daughtry is great. And I don't listen to most of today's mainstream crap. Daughtry just happens to be one of the few I like from today. And I don't listen to the radio. I go to Walmart look at the CD's and listen to the clips to see if I like it. I used to listen to 105.5 a lot when I was Alex's age, and they played a lot of stuff I liked. But it wasn't Indie. It was good rock, not the 95.5 or Z100 crap. So when I'm talking mainstream "wine", it's not Avril Lavigne or Christina Agulera.
and i happen to dig christina aguilera. now your point is moot.
so what are you? a communist? quoting karl marx.
Hahaha... Nice...
No, i didnt quote him, i paraphrased him...big difference. BIG difference.
you are so hot.
awesome
this is mostly true
Yea, i'm not a big fan of arbor mist. I like it for the first few sips, but then it's too sweet.
(This is what i got out of your comment....hahaha jk)