http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills
HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! yessssss!!! so, brotherman, if you look at the above link you will see that football is indeed a harder sport to play than baseball. but baseball did put up a fight. as you can clearly see from the list baseball made it into the ranks, barely edging out water polo, and team handball in difficulty.
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I read one paragraph and stopped. "Toughest" is the term used. As in, something that demands the most out of your body. That was never a debate. I was speaking of hitting a sphere with a cylinder. Wake up boy!
god you're an idiot. whatever. there is nothing left to argue about. the rankings were based on "difficulty." you didn't even read the entire thing.
direct quote: "In Page 2's Ultimate Degree of Difficulty Grid, boxing scores higher than them all."
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Difficulty and skill are two different things. If we're talking difficulty as far as what your body has to go through, then of course many sports are more difficult than baseball. I would say any type of fighting sport is the most difficult because it requires and athlete to be in the most pristine condition. At one job I worked at, we played soccer at lunch time. I was wiped out a lot of times because theres a lot of running. I could play a double header baseball game and not feel the same way. So in that respect it was more difficult.
And my argument is definitely proved. Under the heading Hand/Eye Coordination, it scored a 9.25. That is better than every single other sport. That is the argument I was proving, not agility or strength, etc. Anyone knows hand/eye coordination is a harder skill than being strong or agile. I've also heard countless sport commentators say that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. So who is the idiot now?
uuuh...you. you're the idiot now.
"Anyone knows hand/eye coordination is a harder skill than being strong or agile." this is so dumb. there is no possible way to judge which skill is harder (strength, agility, or hand eye coordination). the point of the article was to take all of the attributes an athlete needs to play a sport (endurance, strength, speed, agility, flexibility, nerve, durability, hand eye coordination, and analytic aptitude) and see which sport required an athlete to harbor most of those attributes. nobody is denying that it is hard to hit a baseball. but that is the hardest thing about the entire sport. a football player needs to display more of those attributes than a baseball player, making them better athletes.
Strength isn't a skill. Agility isn't a skill. It's inherited by keeping yourself in shape and pushing your body to the limit. Anyone who is set on doing that can accomplish those things. I work out, so you can't say I'm clueless.
You could be in awesome shape, but that does not mean you can catch a football or hit a baseball or shoot a basketball. Skills are the latter mentioned things. All require focus and proper mechanics.
For example, I started mountain biking regularly. My cardio was not that great in the beginning. Tonight I did a 27 mile ride and I felt really strong. It's the best I've felt doing it since I started up again. Where's the skill there? It was just a matter of continually doing it to get me to this point. A person could practice hitting a baseball continually and never be good at it. It's a condition in your mind that allows you to focus enough to see the ball well enough to hit it proficiently. It's not something you can teach or naturally do.
The quarterback has the hardest job on the football field. He has to block out guys rushing towards him and hone in on a running receiver and then make a good throw.
The goalie on a hockey team has the hardest job on the ice. He has to focus on the puck coming in at high speeds and filter out bodies getting in his way as he is doing it.
All of these things require massive amounts of hand/eye coordination. It's the hardest skill in all sports. And baseball scored highest in that department.
The survey was all-around difficulty. You should make a call in on a sports show and I bet you if you asked what particular skill is the hardest in sports, most analysts will say hitting a baseball is.
But... You may then think it is "the man" messing with their thinking, so you probably still won't be convinced.
blah, blah, blah...hand eye coordination is something some people have naturally, just like some people are naturally strong, or fast. please don't ever talk about football like you know anything about it, because when you do it shows how little you know about it. there is no way to prove that hand eye coordination is the hardest skill in sports. but if you type in "hardest sport" in google, that article is the first link that comes up. football (according to espn) is the 3rd hardest all around sport. aka, you need the most all around skill in order to play it. maybe you don't need as much hand eye coordination as baseball, but you still have to have some. maybe baseball requires more hand eye coordination than football does, but football players need to have more all around skills. they are better all around athletes.
hitting a baseball takes hand eye coordination, but so does catching a 30 yard bullet pass over the middle of the field while a 205 pound safety, and a 265 pound linebacker, are both running into you at fool speed. hitting a baseball is just muscle memory. catching a football is a different situation every time.
go ahead and argue with the facts. try and dispute the authorities (espn, the largest sports network ever). try to deny it, but you are just blinding yourself. your like a person who believes in the trinity, but can't explain how it works. you can argue with them forever, and disprove every thing they say to you, but when you walk away from the door they still believe in the trinity. baseball is pagan false doctrine. football is the truth.
Again, all-around difficulty is different than one particular aspect such as hitting. A good hitter succeeds 30% of the time. That kind of success rate in other sports would be disastrous. But I guess we'll have to agree that we disagree.
HAHAHA..."baseball is pagan false doctrine. football is the truth" I love it. haha
As an outsider...(i know nothing about sports) you both make really good arguments....and I am not yet convinced of either....please continue. haha
Alex keeps arguing the all-around difficulty, which I never argued. If ESPN did a survey on the most difficult "skill" in sports, hitting a baseball will be #1. What they did in the survey he linked us to was average all aspects into one score. I don't disagree with the survey, looks accurate.
But, apparently Alex has never seen Mariano Rivera saw bats in half with his cut fastball. The guy has something like a 0.05 ERA in the postseason. And the hits people got off him were usually bloopers and bouncers up the middle, nothing solid. He's also probably never seen Barry Zito's trademark 12-6 curveball. It starts out at 12 o'clock and ends at 6 o'clock. There are so many different kinds of pitches with movement and guys who have sneaky deliveries, that a hitter has an extremely difficult job out there. Whole teams usually have a team batting average of about .260 to .270. And that is good teams. A 27% success rate? Name any skill in sports where you can win with that kind of rate of success?
yeah, well you're stupid.
I know you are but what am I.
yeah, if the debate is which sport that involves hitting a sphere with a cylinder is the hardest, then baseball probably wins.
thats great! made me laugh so much.
i knew hockey would be in the top five! its #2!! anyones whos ever played knows how insane (and what a rush) it is.