ok, I've been really quiet about this movie so far, but I have to say, the plot was ridiculous, confusing, and pointless.
I give this movie 5 stars out of 10 (that's three more points than Indiana Jones, mind you). Morgan Freeman was excellent, Heath Ledger's acting was so creepy I was terrified, and Michael Caine is welcome in any movie. However, Christian Bale's "scary" voice as Batman was painful by the end, the pathetic "acting" by Maggie Gynnethal made me almost miss Katie Holmes, and why were their fat "Batmen" with guns running around?
Batman Begins, by comparison, had an excellent back story - Bruce Wayne in an Asian prison, fighting anyone and everyone. The story of his training, defeating his trainer (remember the scene of him and Liam Neeson fighting on the ice?) - all to get back to Gotham and use his skills for good was engaging and interesting. There was one mob boss to deal with, and that made it easy to follow.
In the new one - we're given many scenes of different mob bosses. Who cares about tons of mob bosses meeting in a restaurant kitchen? Is this Analyze This? Is Billy Crystal showing up?
One last thing - Christian Bale is a good actor (I like the Prestige) but he has some kind of mouth problem (a weird lisp?) that's accented by the Bat costume. And he seems way too skinny to be Batman (and maybe he even lost weight and muscle since Batman Begins). I like my superheroes to have impressive physique's that I can aspire to.
That's my feelings on the movie. Lauren loved it, and couldn't wait to see it again. I feel like I'd watch it again on video just for a few scenes.
well you've probably never read frank miller's the dark knight returns. the fake batmen with guns was a take off on a gang in that book called the sons of batman. basically, the sons of batman were guys running around trying to help batman fight crime.
also, if you had read the dark knight returns or any batman comic book, you would know that the joker is supposed to be psychotic and creepy. he is basically the coolest villain ever, and heath ledger performed the hell out of the roll.
i dont know about you but i am glad this movie didn't have the same plot as the last one. that would have been a little redundant.
also, christian bale was huge in this movie. definitely way bigger than you.
i will agree with you, however that the voice he uses as batman gets a little annoying. but the reason you didn't like this movie is probably because you do not like good movies.
fortunately, I have the ability to mark this post as stupid. but I won't, I'll just mark it as stupid in my head.
why should i read a book (or graphic novel) to enjoy a movie? Most people won't bother. However, I am the exception to the rule. Give me the book (or graphic novel) and I'll read it.
I didn't require the same plot as the last movie - merely an engaging plot that was interesting.
Christian Bale looked skinny and emaciated. Sort of like you with no shirt on playing drums.
Also - it's not "roll" it's "role".
THIS post should be marked very, very funny.
well you're an idiot anyway for not liking the movie...also you're ugly.
also you think you telling me im skinny is going to offend me? go hit the gym son...and go get a rhinoplasty, while you're at it.
You're both a couple of runts.
so far, I've read
Batman: Year One
and I'm working through
The Dark Knight Returns
The library just alerted me to the fact that "The Killing Joke" has arrived.
year one was awesome!
you're a good man. killing joke is nuts.
So I finished The Dark Knight Returns this morning. I gotta say, it was excellent. The female Robin was intriguing, I loved seeing Batman fight Superman, and I loved the trick at the end. Having read it, now that whole "sons of batman" thing makes a little more sense, but I still feel the movie confused the whole thing.
There were some parts I didn't get. For instance, I always thought that Commissioner Gordon's daughter is named Barbara and that she becomes Batgirl. But in Year One, Commissioner Gordon's wife is named Barbara- and in Dark Knight Returns, she's Sarah? I was really confused by this. (Side note, I just Wikipedia'd this and apparently it depends on which line of continuity the particular story happens to be in. Which is weak, if you ask me.) (Ok I read more of the Wikipedia article. Apparently she is his niece, who he adopts. Seriously, I do not have this kind of time, people!)
oh, some other things I didn't like. I still argue that Batman is supposed to be large, and muscular (and completely unlike Christian Bale). The comics show him as absolutely huge, with large shoulders and massive arms. He towers over a lot of people, both as Bruce Wayne and Batman.
Also, in the comics, Batman spends a lot of time dodging bullets. For someone who has a bulletproof suit, he spends a lot of time acting like he could die if he gets hit. That also makes little to no sense. The guy has millions of dollars and doesn't bother to wear a bulletproof suit? What sense does that make?
mmmmmmm. i gotta say... i understand where you're coming from. and i feel like a nerd saying it, but the stuff that bugged you is all from the comic. pretty faithful work too. guess it didn't translate well for you.
the jokers evil sadistic psychopath level was almost overkill, but hey, they WANTED you to feel uneasy whenever he popped up in a scene. it worked well. i'll note the scene when he was taping himself with fake batman. i had a really ugly, cold feeling in my gut that i don't usually get watching movies.
bale skinny, i agree. but that's kinda batmans whole thing. he's just a man in a suit. he's not a "superhero" at all. he's just a dude who needs to fight crime and he has a keen intellect, suits and gadgets, vehicles, and back-up plans.
and yeah, the 'whiskey and cigarettes' batman voice is meant to terrorize villians and disguise his voice, but... yeah, i was cringing hard each time he used it.
maggie, oh maggie. she was out of her element. this was NOT a good role for her. katie holmes was a bad choice to BEGIN with if you ask me and but i'm piffed she didn't come back. so, they throw in maggie. this is not her kinda thing at all. she didn't fit. i like her in other movies though.
Wow, you agree with me? Thank you sir! (especially on the terrible scary Batman voice).
Although, I feel the "skinny man in a suit" should be reserved for Spiderman - (Toby McGuire still needs to hit the gym and then eat some Big Macs).
Sounds like I'll definitely need to read the book.
well, there's a few books you should read, lol. Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns (Batman is in that one). the Batman/Gordon/Harvey thing is begun in Batman: Long Halloween. the joker stuff is from Killing Joke and The Man Who Laughs. And no, i haven't read all of these comics, just Year One and Dark Knight Returns. Those are SOLID GOLD batman comics.
yea, christian didn't look as good in this movie as in the last one. I agree he was too skinny.