ok i seemed to ramble and get off topic there, on my last post. instead, you are right, many people are going JUST to hang out. seriously, the people i'm riding with want to bail before he comes on to go to a party..unless...and this is a direct quote ... "it's a good group of witnesses at the concert". i love my boys and all but i wanna stay to see dashboard...the last show i saw him at (skate and surf), i showed up just as he got on, and left when he got off. it was perfect. no time shoved up against sweaty people listening to music that i don't care about. the best deceptions still makes me sad. i hope i'm never in a position like him, when that happened.