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starshiptrooper Nov 3, 2003

please, just dont listen to *Captain Jack*.

thatdarngirl Nov 3, 2003

Why? I enjoy that song.

starshiptrooper Nov 3, 2003

read the lyrics its about self abuse =(

thatdarngirl Nov 3, 2003

So..what's wrong with that? It happens.

dgiaimo Nov 3, 2003

I really hope that you're kidding here.

thatdarngirl Nov 3, 2003

Not at all. Self abuse happens, I don't see what the big deal is listening to a song about it. I'm sorry if I'm not overly shocked and horrified by self abuse, that's just life.

fivezero Nov 3, 2003

i agree. we all abuse ourselves in some way, whether we know it or not. we as imperfect humans are just...wrecked. we'll get better.

dgiaimo Nov 3, 2003

I'm not sure that you and thatdarngirl understand what the phrase "self-abuse" means. It's what the YPA book talks about in chapters 25 and 26. If you understand that and are still making these c...

fivezero Nov 3, 2003

haha. self-abuse isn't exclusively masturbation. we're using a more broad definition. perhaps overeating, maybe cutting, low thoughts of yourself, perhaps even overly high expectations of ones s...

dgiaimo Nov 3, 2003

I don't know if you're trying to be funny here or not, but the phrase "self-abuse" very definitely means "masturbation" as you will find if you look in any dictionary, and I do not find joking abou...

fivezero Nov 3, 2003

we're both right. lets dance, not fight.Main Entry: self-abuse Pronunciation: -&-'byüs Function: noun Date: 1605 1 : reproach of oneself 2 : masturbation 3 : abuse of one's body or health

dgiaimo Nov 3, 2003

Okay, so it can mean both, but I have never heard or seen the phrase self-abuse used to mean anything except masturbation, and I am fairly certain that this is what StarshipTrooper meant when she u...

fivezero Nov 3, 2003

hey, when you're right...you're right. BUT the song talks of many forms of self-abuse. masturbation, drug use, not attending college, and nose-picking.

dgiaimo Nov 3, 2003

Absolutely. Which is exactly what I said in my response to StarshipTrooper's post.

fivezero Nov 3, 2003

thats cool and the gang, bro. i was just replying to thatdarngirls comment. upon reading and responding--i didn't immediately regard self-abuse as masturbation and now i'm wondering how she meant...

sugabluejennnie sugabluejennnieOG 2002

Aww okay now lets all hold hands and sing.. then we can eat cake..

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