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Oh wow..that last part about sam and getting married as calmed all my fears. My little sister said she heard there was no "raising of the shire" which would just totally ruin EVERYTHING but I have faith in Peter Jackson as a fan.
Peter Jackson is hanging by a thread with me over what he did to my boy Faramir in the Two Towers. If he doesn't get Return of the King right I don't know if I'll ever watch one of his movies again.
Yeah, he really did ruin Faramir (who I love with a passion). I find it hard to watch some parts of Two Towers, but he did do an amazing job with Gollum. I just don't understand how such a big fan could do that to Faramir when it wasn't even necessary.
you can't have it all, folks. sometimes you have to give certain things less attention to give the more important things appropriate weight. it's a sad thing but not at all uncommon in film. i think PJ did the very best he could. and theres still no word on what's in the extended footage. theres about an hours worth, i understand. you may get what you want, in the end.
the changes in the film adaptation don't bother me really, especially after watching the interviews with the writers. they did what they could. and it is an adaptation, not a direct word for word movie. it's one person's idea of the story. so, the movies are great on their own terms. the books are still there for all to read :)
I definitely agree that the movies are great on their own terms. They just disappoint me when I compare them with the books. And the Faramir thing really bugs me because he's probably my favorite of the human characters, and PJ went and turned him into a clone of Boromir.
did you see the Extended Edition? Faramir is saved a slight bit by it.
there's no scouring of the shire at all, it was never even filmed. chances are that it won't even be in the extended edition. pj didn't "like that part of the book".
altho, saruman being removed completely from rotk is a little sad, but watcha gonna do. 3.5 hours for the theatrical release is already LOONNNG
Sigh. So I guess he's removed all trace of the underlying theme of the books, huh.
which the good vs evil thing? or the tale of hobbits?
either way, i think i'll be happy with pj's conclusion to the films. the writing has been excellent (if you can look at it purely from the standpoint of the film on there own.) and i don't think he'll let us down.
There is a major undercurrent in the books that is essentially Tolkein's lament over what happened to Europe, and the English countryside in particular during the two world wars of the last century. The reason the scouring of the Shire is so important is that how the hobbits felt when they returned to the Shire and saw it so changed represents how Tolkein felt after he came back from fighting World War 1 and found his hometown, and many other towns in the English countryside overtaken by industrializing forces. In that chapter he's lamenting the loss of the "simple" agricultural life that people used to live with the new industrial life that was forced upon England by the war fever that swept Europe.
I think that PJ is doing a wonderful job of telling a great good vs. evil story, but he's taking out a lot of the points that make the Lord of the Rings great literature as opposed to just a good story.
Actually, if you read the intro that I have in my books (they're really old, I'm not sure if it's in all additions) he says he wasn't talking about Europe and England at all and it was not his comment on how he felt about things going on around him.
Maybe he didn't do it consciously, but that doesn't mean it's not there, and it doesn't mean the books were not greatly affected by his experiences with war.
But he had a lot of the books or ideas of middle earth drafted out on paper or in his head for a really long time.
too bad its so demonic~!
Now..the last time you complained about the triology you said it was violent..when did you make this sudden switch?
ok, its violent AND demonic.
lol u nut, i love these movies!!!! its just too bad they're violent and demonic! hehe!
maybe i'm glad i never read the books
..I just don't understand not liking that part of the book. If you read Tolkiens intro to the books you see that that is like the most important part. And even when Sam looked into Galadriel's mirror he saw part of the scouring on the shire, so how..I just don't understand. That just really brought everything together and I'm afraid I'm going to be very disapointed.
chances are they might show some things they didn't have time/money to shoot in a montage type sequence toward the end.
That might make me feel a little better..but I'm under the belief that they should have made 6 3 hour movies. That way everything would be wonderful.
HAHA, i feel the same way. i feel that way about the matrix flicks too.