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I've had a few conversations with people about kids names. I said I like really easy, simple kids names. And I think some people take kids and their names to this huge, crazy level. This is what I said. Am I nuts?!
I've been thinking...when people try too hard to name their child something flowery, clever, or meaningful-- it's just contrived and criminally self-important! There are so many orphans and kids who have names already who need adoption and care, but we make kids of our own because we want to see the product of our genetic union and we want to be personally responsible for the life we've created, body and soul. While it's perfectly natural and organic and written into us to make babies-- in this day age it's a nakedly selfish thing to do! I say if you have a kid-- don't make a huge flashy deal out of it, lol. Make the name short, sweet, fun, and easy to remember. No need to make it mushy and sentimental, because I personally think it makes parents look silly.
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Okay, so i just have to state this. We just got home from Maine yesterday, we were up visiting Austin's family. (Lots of aunts, uncles, cousins; all witness, pretty cool).
So, we stayed with Austin's cousin and his wife. And I really really like them, they are our age...23-24 and a lot of fun. They have been married like 4 years and have a 3 year old & a 1 year old. Really cute kids. But, I don't know if it's my perception or what, but I feel like everyone that HAS kids is always talking about getting AWAY from them. I mean obviously there are good things to it...but I wish sometimes people would talk about the good things, and not just how much they want to get away from them. And like, they're all desprately trying to find a babysitter and stuff.
It's just like...if everyone CAN'T STAND having kids so much, why do they all do it!?!
it's called accidents....
that's right timmy... mommy and daddy didn't want you! in fact, mommy cried for days and days when she found out you were going to be born!
the world is full of babies
And all of them seem to have access to ezabel...odd.
wahhhhh
I always end up wanting to keep other peoples kids lol!
Sometimes I imagine what fun things I could do as a mom and it really makes me smile.
The way each child is so different amazes me. Although children are part of use and share some of our traits, it's amazing to watch the individuals they become.
The other day I was with this adorable lil boy from the Russian hall Nikkita... we're at the movies and he's sitting on my friends lap. He looks over at my popcorn and says "I like that stuff, it tastes good."
Of course I let him have some =) but, then I watched and worried to make sure he could chew and swallow the kernels.
Just have to remind myself that the future we await if we remain faithful to Jehovah is so much better to offer to a child then the present system of things. But no matter what I'll luv my child(ren) unconditionally.
'than' the present system of things.
looking back at what i said-- i'm retarded, lol.
this happens to me all the time. grrr.
haha, i hate that. and there is no editing! everything you write here is etched in stone! (Gosh, from even 4-5years ago, when the stupidity was more rampant)
Cleaned up this Thread a bit.
You guys: stop getting so bent out of shape. The Internets: Serious Business.
i heard on the radio this morning that the governor of NJ is out of touch with reality
HOW COULD THIS BE?!?!
from wiki: He married his high school sweetheart, Joanne Dougherty, and their 33-year marriage produced three children (Jennifer, Josh, and Jeffrey).
I don't get it...
HE HAS THREE KIDS AND IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ERROR ERROR
Then he's a wacko.
So at lunch today I went with someone to pick up a Build a Bear...
is it weird that it suddenly occurred to me that with the exception of the shoes (for fat teddy bear feet) the clothes could totally fit a growing toddler and they're SOOOOOO CUTE! I almost died. I'm so going back to build a Hello Kitty
Brotherman just called me. He said he's smarter than you and that because he has children-- he could build the best bear EVER!
Come on.
Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside!!!!
a woman at my job buys these clothes and dresses her dog up in them for costumes.
That's a little creepy. Plus it can't be comfortable for the pooch, they have clothes for dogs, lol oh well.
its actually so cute. i dont think i would ever do it but when she showed me the pictures i was hysterical. i mean everything fit her dog perfectly.
Well that's cool, since it fits. Who would've figured? ;)
Why has no one told me that you can build your own Hello Kitty!?!?!
I KNOW I THOGHT OF YOU THE MINUET I SAW IT I almost IMED YOU TO LOL!!!
SEE I GOT SOO EXCITED MISSPELLED MINUTE =P
Minuet--French way?
Minuets are quite beautiful
there is a salad at the tea room i work at named minuet. goat cheese, cranberries, cherries, mandrin oranges and candied nuts
Hahaha you guys
Brotherman, while I understand your point and how having children affected your life, I've personally seen many scenarios of families ripped apart-both parents and children leaving Jehovah. The parents weren't made stronger because of having children-it actually weakened them. It is pointless to advocate one choice or another because that's what it is-a personal choice. Having children is entirely up to each couple to decide. The reasons they make that decision are personal and none of anyone else's business.
You rock!
uh, forreste, i gotta disagree. i think that a lot of couples DON'T make that decision at all - they have "oops" babies. they don't decide anything, they only decide to uh, relate to one another.
Well, birth control-that's part of their decision, too. (99.9% effective) C'mon bro you're married I don't have to explain how that sort of relating works. Still, you've got a point, there are a lot of oops babies.
I don't know...my point was more that we can't make a generalization of the results on people from having children because it's different in every single case.
i hate when i make "oops" babies. d'oh!
is that when you crap your pants?
not YOU personally. that was a general "you". upon re-reading my comment, I realized it could be misconstrued.(sp)
I think everyone is misunderstanding me. I think many believe I'm saying you have to have kids to be strong. Well, I'm not.
very nice to see you making a poop joke in a serious debate forum, lol. i understood the joke you made and i can't say i'm proud, haha.
Then those parents were never strong in the first place or let their guard down. The bible refers to children as a gift. If people are looking at them as burdens then they miss the whole point. And it also shows they are not laying their burdens upon Jehovah. Parents are only going to be successful by keeping Jehovah in the family unit. I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I know what happens when the parents are not strong spiritually. And yes it is up to the couple. All I am saying is, if the couple is strong spiritually, it'd only be natural that they'd become stronger bringing up spiritually minded children. They are instant bible studies. And if we can be strengthened by having studies with worldly people, then the affect should be even more satisfying when it is with our own flesh and blood. So I fail to see how no one agrees with this. Jehovah gives strength beyond what is normal. When you all are ready to have kids, he will give you more strength if you put him first. I hope this thought was more organized.
all she's saying is it's not always a good idea to have kids.
I agree. I'm not advocating to go out and have them if you are not ready. I'm just saying once you do, it'll make you a stronger person than when you were kidless, if you do things the right way.
so.... okay.. let me get this straight
IF you're ready to have kids (how one knows this is beyond me), and IF you do things the right way (which there are what, 10000 variations) , THEN having kids is gonna make you stronger
it's still a crazy statement but it's better than saying people without kids are out of touch with reality and having kids makes you see things clearly
at least you put some "ifs" into the staetment now which make it a little bit more reasonable... sort of...
hey i know this really nice and strong spiritual woman who has no legs, i think i'm gonna go cut off my legs because obviously it'll make me really strong and open my eyes to reality
When you have to take care of another individual of course it opens up your perception of reality more. You have to be more self-sacrificing. You'll see when the time comes.
There's one variation in the truth. Raise them to know and love Jehovah. I'm not talking about parenting techniques as far as discipline goes. That'll be different with everyone.
ok
but please don't say "WHEN"
why does it have to be "WHEN"
When you have kids
to me having kids is about as desirable as having my legs amputated so I woudl hope that it is not a question of WHEN but IF
thank you
Ok Catwoman. Hahaha....
in all seriousness, arguing on this topic is pointless and I am ashamed that i have participated in it at all, but like i said it is a sore spot for me because I have been dealing with this my whole life, being told that something is WRONG with me because I have zero desire to give birth. I think there is plenty wrong with me but the fact that I don't want to have kids is NOT wrong and it does NOT make me less of a person. haha.
and by the way, when i was dating my husband I told him, that if he wants to have kids he should marry someone else, i did not hide my intentions, and i have not changed my mind, and he doesn't wanna have kids either, and he is a VERY strong and amazing person
And I salute you for your accomplishments and growth as a result of having kids. yay for you!!
Once again, I never said a person cannot be strong without kids. And you are definitely not strange for choosing to be childless. I'd stand there next to you and defend you amongst people like that. Having children is a heavy responsibility. It shows people how strong they really can be. But if the thought makes you afraid, then you are better off not taking that step. It shows you are responsible. Too many irresponsible people bring kids into the world.
ok, cool, we're cool yo
You obviously feel so strongly about this because your children have made you appreciate reality. Personally, I find it admirable to look at the example of people who have spiritual "children" that they've led to Jehovah - full time servants that have sacrificed pretty much everything they have to help people learn the truth. They see everyday the gross reality of what's happening in this world. It affects them so deeply that they are willing to forgo things they may really want (like having children) so they can have more time to give everyone the wake-up call they so desperately need.
It is up to each individual person to determine their devotion. Granted, children with parent(s) that are serving Jehovah have better circumstances to make that choice, but that doesn't mean they will. The same thing with the parents-if their children don't make that choice, they might weaken their attachment to Jehovah because of their relationship with their children or disappointment (or any other number of reasons). Your faith is an ongoing confidence that can be built up or torn down. For you personally, it's great that having children helped you strengthen that. Funky understood me, all I was trying to mention was that you can't make the generalization that having children will have a positive effect on someone's spirituality.
Man, you're being so judgmental. Why don't you just say that having kids helped you personally spiritually, and you're happy to have that blessing? That's a positive statement everyone will support you on.
How am I being judgemental? If your children make you fall away from the truth then you didn't keep Jehovah in the arrangement. The same goes with marriage. If Jehovah leaves the marriage, chances are it'll fail. If you think that is judgemental then I don't know what to tell you. By all the things I hear you say about your coworkers, you shouldn't be calling anyone judgemental.
Ok, super defensive man.
You and I need to fight. ;oP
you two are funny.
We sound like we are married. Haha
Diane would have you 100% whipped.
I would have traded her in for 2 AAA batteries to put in my TV remote. Hahahaha.....
LOL!!!
I just threw up.
Beat ya to it.
Dude, you said something which facetiously nauseated me. Even your would-be comebacks don't make sense.
Oh stop it. You don't even know me.
I love it.
And I don't bicker with my husband because he doesn't say unreasonable things.
haha, diesel
cuz he's whipped and knows not to say them
hahahaha jk
Cuz he'd get the stare of death otherwise. Hahaha....
kids are always making their parents look silly, and it mainly has to do with the fact that parents don't beat their kids. if i was being a distraction at the meeting when i was young, i knew i was going to get a beating. i know kids whose moms would bring wooden spoons to the meetings with them in case their kids acted up. but parents just let their kids rule there lives now a days, and the kids always end up being totally screwed up.
sorry if i am getting off topic, but while we are on the subject of kids, one thing that REALLY annoys me is when parents bring there kids with them to a party or gathering or whatever, and the kids don't even say hello to the host. and then they will sometime let their kids bring their gameboys with them, and they will sit in the corner and play it the whole time. or they will run around the house and destroy things, and the parents just don't do anything to stop them. if i ever did this when i was little, again i would catch a beating.
Yeah well that is where you are wrong. I beat my kids. Haha... But I see what you are saying. A lot of that has to do with DYFS. If you spank your kids and even leave a red mark, they come after you. It's a joke.
Just to throw in a legal fact: Having worked on custody cases in NJ, NY & PA, an agency may investigate a claim of abuse, but 4 out of 5 that I've been involved with come back unfounded, because the parent simply was disciplining. And once they close their investigation, it's closed and they shouldn't give a parent more trouble. So smack the kids!
I have not been on ezabel for a while. So it is time to add some comments.
I am a HUGE activist of BEATING your kid.
I can NOT explain how many times a child has run in the kingdom hall, gave lip to an older person, smacked another kid and the most that happens to the child is a stern talking to.
GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK.
My husband feels the same way. When we have kids whenever that will be who knows, I'm sure we will be the Nazi parents of the hall because I REFUSE to let my child run my life, they already will be taking up 99% sent of my time & I don’t need them to RUN it.
I was a well behaved kid man. it got to the point that if I acted up during the meeting I got the eye and GOODNESS KNOWS that was worse then just smacking me because I knew I was getting it when I got home., & I totally deserved it. If it wasn't for my parents taking charge I would not have realized how important the meetings are and that they are not playgrounds, same as being a guest in someone’s house.
I also respect my parents for being firm & reasonable of course. & anyone who knows my parents knows they were chill, cool, & easy going parents, but they also laid the law down when we needed it.
Kids do not have respect. IT KILLS ME.
WHAT REALLY Kills me
is when we have families over and the child is running around my house, LITERALLY running. I NEVER did that! &&&& The parent does not stop them. WHY??
The thing too is Jaws is NOT about kids. So if the child is obnoxious Jaws, oh man he does NOT like it. I have to put him away so he doesn't bite the child.
So BEAT YOUR KIDS WHEN THEY ACT UP. LOL Cause If you don’t I just might.-haha
Now the whole “controversy” of having or not having kids (& controversy is specifically in quotes because I don’t believe it is a controversy it’s a joke.) Who is it of anyone to say yay or nay of having or not having them, adopting or not adopting? It’s ridiculous. If you want them have them, if not don’t. It is not up to anyone but you and your mate. & there should be no pressure because why should you care what people think about such a huge decision. It changes YOUR life not theirs. SO how can there be any debate when it only involves yourself & your mate. That’s what I’m saying. Ha ha
At one point I was all about babies. At the moment I am not because I like my time. Buying a house and having a pup took up a lot of my time & at the moment I am not ready to dedicate my life to a child. Although I love my house and my pup it still takes up more then enough of my time. & I feel having a child although I would LOVE it, it is just not for me right now. A child can wait a few years. I want to travel. It is hard enough trying to find a person who is capable of handling my dog for weeks at a time. The time will come when babies are in our future.
& I am totally naming my kids cool names. I hate boring names. Ha ha- my name is so boring and I wish to goodness gracious my parents gave me an exciting name.
(beeep- answering machine finish noise)
I agree, yo
Wow! Brilliant comment!!
some people shouldn't be allowed to have children...i am dead serious too.
You being one of them. :oP
I agree with you Alex... especially if the parent continues to act like a child after they have kids, even more so a reason why they shouldnt be allowed to have children...
somebody sure loves the spankings
I think I understand where he's coming from... I don't know if he's not in touch enough or if he cares enough to make himself clear, but this is what I've gathered:
I think he is saying that he PERSONALLY is stronger and he's appreciative of the strength that his kids have made NECESSARY for him to cultivate. In comparison, OLD childless Brotherman is less wise and less strong than the NEW Brotherman and he became aware of the imperative need to wise up and draw closer to Jehovah for the sake of his families spiritual well-being. He's just saying he feels he's PERSONALLY stronger than he was when he was where we are. And it's not anyones place to quantify that. Or measure strength or ANYTHING. Our circumstances and lives are way too different to get into a huff over this. Am I right?
No, I'm saying you are gay.
I'm saying you take a strong person, add kids and they become even stronger. I started studying before they came along.
If no one wants to recognize that, then fine. But I bet you a lot of parents will agree with me.
Haha. I was trying to give you the benefit, man. Now I see that you're just a jaded, angry douche who thinks he's stronger and wiser than anyone who doesn't have kids. Shameful.
I'm not angry, I'm just flabbergasted by you young people that can't see parents are strengthened by their children. You guys were making fun of people who had kids and wondering why they would do so. I'm just relating the benefits. You ask any elder or pioneer or publisher who had children, and they'll tell you that their children make them even stronger. I'd say I'm a little wiser in this area than a lot of others on here. As I'm sure you are wiser than me on another topic. We all have our strengths.
Use the elder body as an example. We in the congregation are their figurative children. You are gonna tell me that they don't become stronger having the responsibilities that they have over the flock? C'mon...
Did you READ what I wrote, you chucklhead? I understand what you're saying and it's cool and the gang, man.
AND at the end of my post I was just saying it's NOT for anyone to quantify or measure and certaily not to boast, like you're doing. You feel wiser and stronger than single folks and childless couples?! Fantastic! However, it should be a very personal and private "achievement" and if you had a humble, kind, or wise bone in your body you'd sprinkle this forum with loving insights rather than trying to pump up your nuts by spitting empty and subjective comments that we can't authenticate unless we actually have kids of our own.
Yeah, you're a tool. You're not wise at all. Get lost.
Aye carumba!!! So I'm gonna get singled out here as the jerk I see. Wow....
I tried for you, dude, but nahhh...
No, you said I'm only in the truth because of my kids. That is not the case.
Whoa, I never said that! I'm not even harboring that thought. What did I say that made you think I thought that?
Your first comment in this tree of comments. That is how I interpretted it.
Well, that's not what I was saying. Okay?
Ok Mr. Sumo.
Give Me A Hug, You Big Douche
Hahahaha.... Am I gonna find a sub in one of your rolls?
Any food you find belong to me
BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
Hey Bilbo Baggins...shut it. Hahahahaha
"Phrases that Make My Blood Boil"
I'm a child at heart:
Yeah, you're a child at heart, just as soon as children start going to work every day to rot in a cubicle for a meager pay check so they can drink their troubles away in a crappy bar for the rest of their lives. Unless you're an astronaut, secret agent, vampire hunter, or all three, you're probably a sellout. Nobody wanted to be a regional director of sales or an investment banker when they were kids. On top of that, nobody thinks you're cute or funny by stating you're a "child at heart" on your stupid online profile that you created because you're a boring middle-aged loser. But hey, don't take my word for it. After all, passing by "Cartoon Network" as you're flipping through channels technically makes you a "child at heart."
I'm a child in real life.
I figure If I live out my full life... lets say 80.
That means.. I can be child until 40. Thats half my life.
Then get serious after 40 for the other half.
I call that BALANCE!
Wow look at me. I'm a kid. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I'm a cheeseball I already love my kids and they don't even exist yet.
We're gonna have a blast together! Annnnd I picked at least one female name and one male name just to start (just not here and not now but some day)
I think the name Sire/Syre is hot though like "His royal hotness" LOL sorry my kids are gonna be cute soI think I'm allowed to dote a lil prematurely =P
Sire. OMG.
lol 2 surefire ways to get ezabel fired up
1. talk about fall out boy
2. talk about having kids
yayyyy something to do on a boring day
I hope none of you kidless people take offense, but I think a lot of you are in lala land. Having kids opens your eyes a bit wider to what is going on in this world. While I respect anyones decision not to have any, don't act like people who do have them are crazy to do so. People who are able to survive in the truth with kids are stronger people in my mind. I see too many single and kidless people getting DFed.
i don't think it's the kidless part that there are more DF-ings...it's the singleness part.
My point is, it makes people stronger to have children. Selfishness goes out the door. That is, if Jehovah is put first.
wait..putting jehovah first comes when you get baptized and has nothing to do with having kids or not having them. and saying that if these people had kids they wouldn't be df'ed would make no sense.
No, I'm just saying from my own experience that having kids fortifies what I already committed to. I have other people who count on me, which makes me stronger. And it keeps reality in check, whereas I don't think a lot of single or even married people w/out kids are necessarily in complete reality. I already discussed this with another parent. Just accept it. Haha...
There's plenty of single, selfless pioneers and elders who don't want kids to be able to do more in Jehovah's service. Some want to have kids and choose not to. You're saying people without kids are weaker than people with, and that's too blanket a statement.
Ok and you are talking about an exceptional few. Sorry, but a lot of people's reasons for not having kids have nothing to do with service to Jehovah.
why do you need a reason at all? it's not like we are required to have children and have to come up with a good reason not to. Please.
you don't have to have a reason at all. I just think people with kids are more in tune with reality.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. People with kids are more in tuned to what life is with kids - everyone's lives and priorities are different. Just because someone's priorities involve their pets and spouses instead of children doesn't make them less important or mean that their life is less "real".
If you ever have kids you will then understand. Since I am in a minority here on this site, I expect to hear people think otherwise.
Ok. As long as you admit you're wrong.
What am I wrong about? I see a lot of young single people and married couples that really don't know what true adversity is. Yeah, they go to work, they get to their meetings, go out in service, take care of a home. That can be hard. Throw a kid in the mix and a lot of them would be like chickens with their heads cut off. Its this generation. All I'm saying is that if you are successful rearing kids in the truth, it makes you a stronger person and more appreciative of the truth than if you had not had kids. That's not to say you wouldn't still appreciate the truth, it is just magnified by raising people who rely on you 100%. And if you don't have children, then you don't know what I mean. And I'm not saying you need to have a kid to survive this system. I'm just saying having kids fortifies your resolve further. I have two people I get to have bible studies with. How encouraging is that?
Dude, come on. Kids are cool and do take a lot of work. But just because the majority of people on this site don't have kids at this point, doesn't mean that they've faced less adversity then you. You have no idea what goes on in other people's lives and what makes their faith strong. You only know what it's like to be in your life, having kids when you did, and nothing else. So you can't act like you have the perspective of NOT having kids and growing spiritually as a single person.
Let's just agree to disagree.
so you're saying that having kids is a good strategy for JW's to make them "stronger in the truth." if a kid is going to make your life harder and miserable why have them?
Basically I'm telling the people who laugh at the notion of having kids, that kids build even more strength in a person than what they already had. I can certainly understand people shying away from having kids. This system sucks. People who are miserable having kids are weird.
Just give it up, man. NO ONE AGREES WITH YOU.
And you are the snottiest person on this site. And I'm also talking to people with NO kids. SpecialK would agree with me.
See fivezero's comment above.
Didn't mean to call you snotty, but it seems like you lash out a bit too much with me. I don't know if you are kidding or not.
And you are the snottiest person on this site. And I'm also talking to people with NO kids. SpecialK would agree with me.
that's not the greatest example of how having kids made someone stronger to bring up right now
:(
Oh, I guess something happened I don't know about. Ok, stupid me.
haha this doesn't make any sense because the kid-less could easily say "well if you didn't have any kids you would understand"
just because you have more crap to deal with doesn't mean you are more in touch with "reality"
I have plenty of crap to deal with, people/things to take care of, bills to pay etc. etc. etc. so how is that not reality? haha please enlighten me
I hate to say this, but she is right. Not in how she says it, but she is right. Follow carefully for the following is a brief line of reasoning:
A single person is responsible for one life.
A married person is responsible for two.
A married person with children would be three or more (obviously).
Since by admission it makes you open your eyes up more as to how bad or tough things are-and this would grow exponentially with each child-the logical conclusion would be not to have any children and perhaps even more drastically, not to get married. This reminds me of something said very long ago about a married man being anxious for the needs of his wife as opposed to a single man's anxieties...
Please don't refer to me as "she"; it's derogatory.
Not to mention the fact that you completely echoed what I said, albeit in a more verbose way.
You get sensitive way too easily. Take a chill pill.
Maybe if I take a chill pill, my eyes won't be open enough to reality.
Ooh...Sarcasm! I like it! Haha...
just a heads up...the term "chill pill" went out at about the same time the slap bracelet craze ended.
Sorry, I'm a child of the 80's.
yeah that is ridiculous
i don't think people who have kids are CRAZY to do so and I respect them for taking on the task but I am just extremely happy that I don't have kids lol
and selfishness is not really it for me.. I take extremely good care of my pets and I'm generally a rather selfless person who puts others' interests ahead of my own
at this point you're just coming off defensive. "having kids opens your eyes a bit?" what kind of talk is that?
i however DO understand what you're saying and i'm not say anyone's CRAZY for having kids. i want kids! i definitely do. and i'm aware it's for what i think are selfish reasons. that's just me. i wanna see what a lil valentine knucklehead will look like, i want to share raising a child with someone, i want to see myself in my kid. those must be amazing feelings. some people say that this world is too rough for new kids, but that's relative.
as for your "stat" on single people getting themselves canned-- tesoro said it right. that's so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said and it's not even what anyone's talking about. also i don't like that it suggests that entering into a marriage and kid situation will make you somehow less vulnerable to problems and you'll have your eyes opened. that's just straight up bad advice, bro.
yeah very well said
i guess some people need that kick in the pants and some people don't
do you mean that you think his circumstances "opened his eyes" because they weren't opened when he entered the situation? i don't get what you mean.
i meant that i'm sure having kids does help some people mature, then again i'm sure there are others who it doesn't help, and only hurts the kids. and others don't need this dose of reality
word
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd by the way
"While I respect anyones decision not to have any, don't act like people who do have them are crazy to do so."
you obviously do not respect that decision if you are saying people without kids are out of touch with reality
No one here is saying that there is ANYTHING WRONG with having kids, but YOU are saying that there IS something wrong with NOT having any
so basically you don't make any sense
thank you goodnight
yeah, he's misfiring, big time. i think we brought up something he's very mixed up about. and clearly it's something that's had him feeling low since he's so quick to elevate himself. i dunno.
ya, i don't mean to get so heated, and i usually don't, but i'm just sick of hearing that there is something WRONG with me for not wanting kids, i've been dealing with this my whole life so it is a sore spot haha
I think we all missed the point where he said, "In my mind..." This is the way he views it. Some people who are sans children may feel the exact opposite. And we all have it tough, but i bet he has it as tough as anyone. I respect the fact that he is responsible for the life (now and eternally) of other human beings. This is infinitely better than the parents i've seen who say don't have kids and they wish they didn't.
That being said, the statement is not without its faults. ONE person getting DF'd is too many, so the problem clearly does not lie with being married or having children or not. Statistics aside, this will remain a fact until I read a scripture otherwise. I have a couple in my hall that had a kid then split before they got married (neither baptized). I have a man in my hall that left his wife and children and got df'd. I have a man in my hall who was not married and got df'd.
times my husband or I have said "i'm so glad we don't have kids" - countless
times either of us said "i wish we had kids" - ZERO
we've been married close to 5 years and I'm almost 28 and I have felt this way for about 15 years (for those that always say "ohhh you'll chaaaaaaaaaaaange your miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind" while smiling maniacally and trying to comfort their screaming 2-month-old)
ha
when the "i wish" number overpowers the "i'm so glad we don't" number then maybe then we'll THINK about having a child
methinks it'll be hard to overpower a countless number
but if i did have kids their names would be fun and i don't care if that's selfish haha..
no, FUN is what i ENDORSE!
o okay! hahaha... yeah fun but not annoying. Ziggy. that's my favorite name. ahha
you don't even wanna know my picks, lol
i really do, isn't one of them Soda?
Nooo, that's Theremin's. It's funny though, if a little...left of what I had mind, lol. I like it though.
it would be annoying everytime you hear a kid say "can i have some soda"
"why, sure.. no, wait! What do you mean!!!?!?!"
hah
or maybe seven?
Every time Benny and I have been together for the last couple of months, at least one of us will say something along the lines of, "I'm so glad we're not having kids." I was just thinking that today while we were at Ihop eating our free pancakes and this woman was trying to tell her stupid kid to get out of everyone's way and it wasn't.
I swear if you have a boy you have to name him Captain.
YEAH! Or Sergeant! Sergeant Valentine! SOLD!
See now, if I thought too much of myself I'd name him Admiral and make him wear a set of replica pins that state his rank.
have you ever read catch 22 where they're in the army and they have Major Major. he was immediately promoted to major and unable to rise higher b/c the army was keeping their only major major. catch 22.
ive always felt this way too...NOOOO kids. everyone says the same thing, you'll want them when you're in your 30's. and um im in my early 30s and yeah still dont want kids. not in this system. besides im still a big kid myself, i dont need the competition...lol
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! We're 21 forever!
I love the store Forever 21.
"WE'RE NOT 21 BUT THE SOONER WE ARE THE SOONER THE FUN WILL BEGIN"
i noticed they put John 3:16 on their bags.. that was interesting
what?? really? that's so odd.
last time i was in cali i noticed in-n-out puts it on the bottom of their cups, too. so weird.
they do??? ive never noticed that. now i must go to in n out JUST for that purpose!!! LOL
I like Gadzooks. Forever 21 clothes at half price!
your sister in law is wise. you might be a litle selfish, lol.
to tesoro
what? the only selfish thing regarding me & kids is that i don't want any for a long time. i AM too selfish right now to have kids...my biggest concern in the world is getting to Greece in September. haha
I hate these parents who name their kid Temly, Sklyer, etc...
"This is our son, Justinonian"
last night i suggested the name Skywalker for a girl and we can call her skyler for short.
Is your name Snuffalufficus or something? Deal with it.
i would rather adopt however that is difficult when you have a mate that would never adopt, so i will just stick with never having kids haha
this is a little silly...you're saying if you have a creative kid's name, you're being selfish. and i think kid's are a HUGE deal...it compeletely alters your life and there is this new person that 100% relies on you.
i get what you're saying that there are so many kids that need to be adopted and people continually have their own kids...but it is a very rare person that would give up having their own child to care for someone else's child.
my sister-in-law wants to adopt a child...and what she said was that she doesn't want to bring a child into a world like this, but if she can help a child that is already here..she would do that. but they've already been married for 7 years w/ no talk of kids...so looks like i won't be an aunt for a while.