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On What Is Offensive and What Is Not...

yodasucka by yodasuckaOG 2003 · Jan 13, 2004 · 561 views

Recently, this has been a very popular topic here on eZabel. So the question is raised, what exactly is offensive and what is not? There seems to be a thin line and if you are not careful, it may be crossed. But then agian, there are the people who are intentionally crossing the line.

The way I see it is like this: if you think there is even a slim chance that it may offend some one, then just don't say it. The saying comes to mind "When in doubt, do with out". I think that maybe this should be the new motto of eZabel.

Let's not get into specifics here, pointing fingers and ganging up on others will defeat the entire purpose of this, but what exactly does the majority of eZabel find offensive? Is a user name that is making fun of some one else offensive? Is it always meant to be a joke and therefore should just be ignored? If some one out right says that they find something wrong, should their opinion be taken into account and action be taken? What do you guys think?

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forrestina #9 forrestinaOG 2002

so the important thing is we dont want to stumble anyone. if it doesnt offend you or your friend that's all well and good but if it might offend someone nearby...save it for another time.

thatdarngirl #8 thatdarngirlOG 2002

I was wondering about this..does anyone get offended by the term "cracker" here? I think it's funny. But yeah, don't turn this inot a conversation on any other racial terms..stick with cracker.

fivezero #8.1 fivezeroOG 2003

i love crackers.

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#8.1.1 dgiaimoOG 2003

With cheese and cold cuts?

fivezero #8.1.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

yeah. i like white people too.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

With cheese and cold cuts?

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

always!

forrestina #8.2 forrestinaOG 2002

hmmm it has pretty bad roots but if i was a cracker id def be a club or a ritz mmmm (i'm obviously not offended)

walkngplaygrnd #8.3 walkngplaygrndOG 2003

interesting question . . . thing is, i would only call a friend a "cracker", and only if i knew it wouldn't offend them . . . and i only think its funny under certain circumstances . . . but i call all my friends out by their racial slurs, and none of them seem to get offended

tinser #8.3.1 tinserOG 2002

i take it as a compliment if somebody calls me a mick...we are what we are, right?

yodasucka #8.3.1.1 yodasuckaOG 2003

a mick? whats that? i call Mike that! lol

tinser tinserOG 2002

it's a derogatory term for irish people

yodasucka yodasuckaOG 2003

hm... i didn't know that! learn something new every day!

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

so its bad that i call kt a drunk mick?

tinser tinserOG 2002

no, its excellent....there is no higher compliment

malibu malibuOG 2001

i've heard stories about how mad people have taken offense to being called mick.

personally, you can call me a mick, cracker, spic, ginny, diego, guitto or whatever you wish. i will laugh in your face sooo hard. if you think insulting people i have never met in my family anscentory will offend me or make me feel embrassed about where i come from, then you're sadly mistaken.

thatdarngirl #8.3.2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

When Chef, on South Park, calls the kids 'little crackers' it cracks me up!

walkngplaygrnd #8.3.2.1 walkngplaygrndOG 2003

i've learned so much from chef's songs . . . but nothing i think i can repeat

ophelia #8.4 opheliaOG 2003

seeing as how i'm literally addicted to ritz, and consider them to be one of the most amazing foods known to man(i'd take'm interveiniously if i could)-if i were to call somebody a cracker, i'd probably mean it as a compliment....

malibu #8.5 malibuOG 2001

maybe being raised in the truth with absolutely no racial boundries i take these words too lightly but isn't that the way it should be? you insult people cuz you're playing and just goofin around. it's just like making fun of an outfit they've worn. if you're serious then it's between two people and should involve a private discussion.

ophelia #8.5.1 opheliaOG 2003

yeah, most witnesses are at least moderately blind as regards race..but..there's unfortunately there's still racial hangups amongst jw's at times

thatdarngirl #8.5.1.1 thatdarngirlOG 2002

We should go TP those people.

ophelia opheliaOG 2003

tickle profusely?...

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

with toilet paper!

ophelia opheliaOG 2003

I KNOW!!..haha...i was joking ya silly lil, hey, if anybody should know about tp'n, it's me...me jesse & bobby just by chance saw bryan catazone's car in a shoprite parking lot a few weeks ago - he had prolly like met up w/some folks or something & left it there....so go inside this store called "Just A Buck", buy two packs of toilet tissue, & do his car up REAL nice...& then we went to his apt. & did his roomate's car..haha..good times

walkngplaygrnd #8.5.2 walkngplaygrndOG 2003

i get offended when people call me "white" . . . not that there's anything wrong with white people . . .

ophelia #8.5.2.1 opheliaOG 2003

yeah, cuza how our culture conditions us, people, whether they think they're racist or not, expect you to have certain traits, depending on your skin color..if your black...well then, it's only right that you listen to rap, enjoy "sippin crystál" in jacuzzis, and wear FuBu, exclusively....If you're white..It's only right that you listen to rock, and shop @ hot topic...and, to the ignorant people who don't know any better than to stick to these standards, any deviation from them, is "abnormal", or at the very least worthy of being made fun of

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#7 toxicgirlOG 2003

This whole debate has created so much interesting drama. It has even created a bunch of new eZabel ppls to come out of the woodwork.

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#7.1 blingblingOG 2002

whatchu talkin bout willis?

thefunkyfresh #6 thefunkyfreshFounder

is guilderbellsuck and toxicgirl the same person?

fivezero #6.1 fivezeroOG 2003

NO YOU FOOL!

thatdarngirl #6.2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

Ahhaha soooo funny

fivezero #6.2.1 fivezeroOG 2003

he's gonna laugh his way into some real black eyes!

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#6.2.2 toxicgirlOG 2003

I think my face (when I read that) was even funnier. Good grief.

thefunkyfresh #6.2.2.1 thefunkyfreshFounder

well, looks like they use the same computer

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toxicgirlOG 2003

Heck no! You are just starting rumors cuz I am from Pennsylvania.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

and because he likes boys.

specialk specialkOG 2003

Yay for PA!!! You rock!!!

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

no, it just seems that way cause they are logging in using an AOL proxy, meaning there are going to be all the users that log in with aol using the same address

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#5 wonder_breadOG 2004

this is retarded to debate about. Gosh this is like kindergarten. Its like "He said I look like poo poo." My goodness its not like guilderbellsuck said something that I would consider so painfully hurtful like if someone used a racially or politically incorrect ethnic obscenity.

rocksupastar #5.1 rocksupastarFounder

actually, he has treaded that line enough where iwz has had to delete posts and journals in the past... so yes... he has said things that were not meant to be put on this website

thefunkyfresh #5.2 thefunkyfreshFounder

It's not nice for people to insult others. i mean, we're not in middle school, why can't we at least try to act like adults? I hate to whip out the Bible, but there's a scripture that says "all things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous". Some people are stumbled easier than others, so why not just step down, if for nothing else, just to keep the peace?

thewalkhome #5.2.1 thewalkhomeOG 2003

why do you hate to whip out the bible? haha.

thefunkyfresh #5.2.1.1 thefunkyfreshFounder

i dunno, i don't want people to feel like i'm counseling them or anything. we should all just get along. i mean, look at me, i have no opinions and i'm totally happy. word to the wise

punkprincess #4 punkprincessOG 2001

i just want to state im not FOR guilderbellsuck... im just AGAINST guilderbell....i think theyre all dorks....and they suck.

walkngplaygrnd #4.1 walkngplaygrndOG 2003

and i respect your opinion . . . SUCKA

punkprincess #3 punkprincessOG 2001

oh please people need to get over themselves.(not you yodasucka... the other people)

fivezero #3.1 fivezeroOG 2003

ok. it doesn't offend you. you've stated that. it DOES offend other people. there is a history of ALL kinds of harassment from that invalid. he's just found a new and apparently agreeable place to do it.

punkprincess #3.1.1 punkprincessOG 2001

dont tell me to HUSH! are you kidding me? hahahaha you just told me to hush....hahahaha im laughing.

thatdarngirl #3.1.1.1 thatdarngirlOG 2002

5-0 don't you know who you're talking to..hahaha..she is like an ezabel elite!

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

i know who she is. i'm not too concerned.

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001

you obviously havent seen what i did to the last guy that said that.

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

ok. i've never been threatened on ezabel before. and i never thought it'd be done by a young lady such as yourself. this is a new, cute and adorable first.

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001

DUN....DUN....DUN....

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

hopefully your fighting skills are better than they were at the Hoobastank show. i'll never forget your face.

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001 fivezero

HAHAHAHA! remember that?? i got destroyed!! but listen... since then, ive grown... A WHOLE INCH!

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003 punkprincess

okay! i'm scared now. an inch...is EVERYTHING!

guilderbellsuck #3.1.1.2 guilderbellsuckOG 2003

I looked in the dictionary today and the word Guilderbell means fascist

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

and where did you see that?

iwz #3.1.2 iwz

believe me, many of his posts have been deleted, and he's been banned at least once. he's on thin ice as it is.

just let him do his thing, and he'll probably get banned anyway.

fivezero #3.1.2.1 fivezeroOG 2003

k

thewalkhome #3.1.3 thewalkhomeOG 2003

hahaha...dude it just seems your getting your panties in a twist over someones opinion...(one that they are probably trying to show a sense of humor about). does it matter to you THAT much that someone doesnt like the band? why even bother playing shows for people if youre gonna be that offended at what they think...if thats the case, practice amps in bedrooms are perfect for performances to pets and stuffed animals.

punkprincess #3.1.3.1 punkprincessOG 2001

no one has commented on this comment thus far, so i just have to say i thought that was hilarious!

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toxicgirlOG 2003

It makes me think of "10 Things I Hate About You"

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

he's right. no need to comment. he makes more than a little sense here. i'm glad everything's calm now.

walkngplaygrnd #3.1.3.2 walkngplaygrndOG 2003

you said "panties in a twist" . . . i usually say "panties in a bunch", and btw, Socks doesn't like Guilderbell too much himself - probably because he has to hear us every week

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

socks says only bad things

walkngplaygrnd walkngplaygrndOG 2003

yo bri - socks owes YOU one . . . and you know socks will DESTROY you

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

socks is a bad mug. remind me never to cross his path again.

rocksupastar #3.2 rocksupastarFounder

ME?

punkprincess #3.2.1 punkprincessOG 2001

yes....rock has the conotation of being hard as a....and supastars are usually all about having sex....you know... sex drugs and rock and roll....so... yea.... your name offends me....hahahahaha

fivezero #3.2.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

doesn't offend me. and that's that! lol!

rocksupastar #3.2.1.2 rocksupastarFounder

hmm, yes, i DO believe that THOSE where the eXACT thoughts that were going through my head when i made the name.... actually i was trying to pick up women with it... and well.. pssh obviously THAT worked!

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001

yea... i guess so considering youre married! haha!

iwz #2 iwz

/faqs/75

fivezero #1 fivezeroOG 2003

the usage of the word SUCKS is inappropriate to begin with. poor taste. implies oral sex. not cool.

yodasucka #1.1 yodasuckaOG 2003

I honestly HATE it when people say that.. my mom says that to me all the time, I'm sorry but when I say that someone/thing sucks, the farthest thing from my mind is oral sex... just because it CAN be used in that sense, does not mean that it implies that every time... theres a million other ways to use that word, why does it always have to be bad?
....but u raise an interesting point at which I now must ask, is my user name offensive to any one? it says "sucka" but thats just a word I use, however, if it does offend some one, I will def take action to change that...

fivezero #1.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

sucka is short for sucker. to call someone a sucker, in slang, means that they are easily taken, or like a suckling child in logical deduction. thats the gist. so, no. yodaSUCKA is not offensive. but when people nowadays say something sucks, whether they realize it or not, they are refering to the vulgar slang. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sucks

iwz #1.1.1.1 iwz

i don't trust dictionaries to tell me what the common usage of a word really means

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Yeah. Usage is everything. If a word no longer has a certain connotation to the general public then it no longer has that connotation.

thatdarngirl #1.1.2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

I'm trying to debate if this is offensive or not..but I believe that your name really is all about oral sex Mel. You are sick.

iwz #1.1.2.1 iwz

haha please say you're joking

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

But of course..only you don't know her darker side!

yodasucka yodasuckaOG 2003

yea Lynz.. and how exactly is it that YOU know about this dark side? ;) ;)

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

After I heard about this little lap dance that happened at MY house I decided to investigate further..and the rest is history!

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Actually..does that sound dirty? I think it really might. Oh man.

punkprincess #1.1.2.2 punkprincessOG 2001

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! that was hilarious.

yodasucka #1.1.2.3 yodasuckaOG 2003

Lynz... i heart you.. thats all i can say...

thatdarngirl #1.2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

Have you ever called anyone a dork before? It means penis. Mmhmm.

yodasucka #1.2.1 yodasuckaOG 2003

yea.. a whale penis to be exact...

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#1.2.1.1 toxicgirlOG 2003

When I found that out, my mind wandered back to all my childhood friends who I had called vulgar names. It totally makes me more street.

guilderbellsuck guilderbellsuckOG 2003

time to whip out the anarchists cookbook

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