Love See No Color?
by This is about my eternal struggle to fight against that which I must invariably face ALL THE TIME . . . the "interracial" relationship . . . I truly, TRULY do NOT understand how people can discriminate against those who they would choose to "see" or "date" based on someone's race . . . I personally, love EVERYBODY . . . the first thing I notice about someone is not their color, but . . . hmmmm . . . well I suppose that varies depending on the gender of the person . . . but at any rate I have friends from all backgrounds, nationalities, walks of life, etc. And after the great Watchtowers these past few weeks about Jehovah's impartiality, it truly BOTHERS me that people can call themselves Witnesses of Jehovah and still have some deep-seated prejudice for a certain nationality. I'm sorry, but I just needed to vent . . . and I just think its wrong . . .
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I feel ya, a girls' family wouldn't let her date me cuz i wasn't the same nationality, but it all worked out in the end...
I know what Milton is talking about i think he's meaning not about actuall racism but a person that usually is not attracted to, and I mean in the g/f, b/f way, the look usually associated with one race or another.
and how would YOU know, exactly? hmmmmm? HMMMMMMMMMMM?
This sounds personal, please restrict domestic squabbles to email. hahaha.
or you can you the famed "ez" messages. which are not all that easy, if you want my opinion. they are about as easy as a hot pocket on the stomach.
mmmmmmmm . . . hot pockets . . .
crap! another food with cheese!
you're danhill, right? u can't eat milk products? how sad . . . cheese RULES!
no..i'm dave llanos. the real danhill is taller, and much better looking. DUH!
well since i don't know who EITHER of you are, i think I'll just sit back and be confused . . .
you go right ahead. when you're finished, i'll still be here, holding your wallet.
Hot Pockets are revolting. I never rushed home from school all excited to pop one of those in the microwave. I never cheered whenever Mom served them either.
you're kidding, right? HOT POCKETS are da BOMB!
yeah, I think JWs who behave that way are just.. missing the point.
Does this mean we can no longer tease our resident asian?
no, that will never stop.
it's sad but there are actually racist "Witnesses" out there. i hope they all go to gehenna.
preach on whitey
Hey, look on the bright side. Maybe you'll meet someone online someday, and then drive cross country to marry them.
Does that actually happen? It'll be like that movie "Bringing Down the House" that my mom says was so funny . . . but I couldn't make myself see it, it looked so stupid . . .
yeah same thing. my mom loved it but i still haven't seen it yet.
How about we all just give that topic a rest already.
yeah seriously. come on. people make decisions. you make your own decisions. leave with it.
good point, you know what, any JW, that dares to even think that way will have to answer to the most high, they will definately get there necks steped on in harmagedon!!!(like that greek). but i have a question,
what provoked this discussion?
Carl Jenkins . . . wow, I've haven't seen you in ages . . . but I'll never forget how I handed it to you at Marvel vs. Capcom at the boardwalk that time . . . you could've at least given me a CHALLENGE . . . but in answer to your question, someone said to me that "I'm just not attracted to guys of color . . . is that racist?" Maybe it's NOT based on some prejudice or racist attitude, but for someone like myself, who can find beauty in people of all nationalities, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Needless to say, my day was ruined . . . and I felt a need to vent . . . thus, my above journal entry . . . anymore questions?
I don't think whoever said that meant that offensively but it was probably more of a lack of tact and just saying pretty much the wrong thing completely. Everyone is physically attracted to a certain type of people. That doesn't mean they don't find other types of people good looking but the PHYSICAL attraction just isn't as strong. Example: I am very attracted to skinny white boys (skinny as in not even muscle..just toned). This does not mean, however, that I don't find guys of different backroungs attractive. A girl in my hall recently married one of the best looking guys I have ever seen, and he's black. Big deal. He's still good looking. Physical attraction is not always dealing with the mind and rarely has to do with personality because it's all physical.
you know i've been around some brothers who just because race is never an issue and they've said some odd things that lots of worldly persons would take offense but nobody blinked. maybe they didn't think of it as an issue and just aren't attracted to guys of color but that's a fact to them, not an issue.
you know what. i have an opinion on this journal. a valid one. but i'm not going to share it because i KNOW everyone would be all over it, even though i'm mixed. so, i will keep it to myself.
Hey its a free world . . . I'd like to hear your opinion, which is why I posted this in the first place . . . I don't judge anybody . . . that's Jehovah's job . . . oh by the way did I mention that the person who provoked me to post this said they "like me anyway, even though I'm not usually attracted to guys of color . . ." which, flattering as that may have been, was still a little disheartening . . .
ok ready. here it is. i don't care WHAT color you are, you have to be attractive, well-dressed, and well spoken. regardless. it doesn't matter.those people who i see fitting those descriptions are usually one color. i mean, i look at conventions and whatever, and i don't see people of other races who fit all three requirements. 2 of the 3, sometimes. but mostly, i see all 3 coming from one race. which is not something i really control.
Having said that, when I go to a gathering or something where everyone is a different race, I dont' really care, because, hey, if you don't like punk music it's not the end of the world. but some of my friends will freak out, claiming there are "NOOO chicks" and it's lame.
wow . . . that was quite an opinion . . . but I'd like to think I'm at least one of a several exceptions to that rule . . . I mean I'd hate to think that I wasn't attractive, well-dressed, and well-spoken (at least at a convention - my social attire is another story) . . . The thing about generalities like that is that they can go both ways . . . I've seen people of ALL races who only fit 2 out of your 3 criteria . . . some, not even ONE. I can honestly say that I don't know many that have all three . . . coming from ANY race. I DO see a FACADE of well-spokenness and attractiveness, that soon disappears into anonymity once certain "goals" are achieved . . . but I think that's just common to most guys . . . and as far as taste in music goes, that's a whole different animal . . .
woah woah. hold up. see that kind of proves my point. it doesn't matter about if it's at a convention or outside, i'm looking for all 3 things all the time. i expect to see someone well dressed when out socially too. (not ridiculously nice. just, presentable.) and i'm sick of seeing expensive tee shirts with brand names on them being passed off as "nice clothing"...i'm sure everyone will have something to say about this...
I'm just a t-shirt and jeans kinda guy, to be sure . . . but mine generally fit . . . and it seems that your opinion of "nice clothing" may not necessarily be universal . . . there are a LOT of t-shirt & jeans kind of guys . . . from all walks of life, and that's a fact . . . but I'm not going to wear some khakis and a nice shirt if I'm going to be drumming . . . I'm wearing a wife-beater and shorts, and I'll take all the insults you'd like to dish out about that . . . but I think that age-old saying should here come into play: "Clothes don't make the man" . . . and that is an eternal truth . . . if its THAT much about what I'm wearing, then I think there's a problem. And again, I'd like to think I ALWAYS look presentable - as my mom always says, "you never know who you might see, so you always have to look good." Gotta love mom's . . .
no no no. see, the clothes are for the activity. drumming needs its own clothes. concerts need their own clothes. meetings- also their own clothes. (purple suits should not be part of that.) why do we pick clothes to discuss? what about attractiveness? let's pick that topic. come on now. i've never met any witness girls who look like holly berry, or lucy lu. (I know i'm not spelling well this morning.) I have met witness girls that look like models...kathy ireland comes to mind for some reason...
that's interesting . . . because there's another old saying that comes to mind . . . "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" . . . but if someone's attractive, they are just attractive . . . I don't find Kathy Ireland really that attractive, to be sure . . . but I don't expect model-quality out of my Witness girls . . . just a good attitude and a good personality . . . okay, okay, they have to be attractive too . . . and I'm not a fan of the purple suit either, BELIEVE me . . . can we say "tacky"? I have met some EXTREMELY attractive, model-quality Latina sisters, though . . . But I believe my original point was, whether there's a majority or a minority of a certain race that meet your specifications, the entire population should not be judged based on that. I just dislike when people judge FIRST based on race, and second, everything else . . . If the way a PERSON dresses is unattractive to you, that's fine, but if a sister of another race dresses in a way you would normally find attractive, do you eliminate her ANYWAY? THAT is the heart of the issue . . .
ok. if that's the issue...which i'm going to agree with you, that it is...then i do NOT disqualify her if she's attractive, dresses well, and is of a different race. in fact, i would be perfectly ok with that.
but let's put a slightly different spin on it...do these sisters who are well dressed and attractive LOSE something when they realize that they are thought of as attractive, regardless of race?
I don't think so, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean . . .
i think dans talking about girls that know they have what guys find attractive and then they become less attractive. right? that's what i got.
ahhahaha. that's dan's women requirements. 1) must be exotic--ex. lucy lui and halle berry (p.s. that's the correct spelling) 2) must dress nicely 3)must be spiritual 4) must not like milk.
wow. soo good. also, must be an extremely good driver. and athletic. hmm. ok. i'm done.
hahaha. you are so not. you probably have the perfect women pictured in your head with so many more qualities. 5) must be short because danhill is obsessed with shortness.
NOOOOOOOO. must NOT be short. do not confuse me with everyone else. she must be at LEAST 5 6'.
yeah, because dan is a wopping 5'8....good thinkin' dan
whoa... are u saying only white people are attractive, well-dressed, and well spoken? i totally disagree.
yo shut up man. you're not wanted.
whatever ricky scaggs
i think dan thinks that white people dont commit crimes either.
yeah i know, we should probably re-institute slavery while we're at it
c'mon, guys! dan's a nice guy. he had the sack to stand up and state his opinion regardless of any controversy he'd be dredging! Besides, i'm sure he'd be the kindest slave owner this side of the mississippi! yessum!
yeah, i dont agree with that either. i will say though, that i think a lot of times people of one race are mostly attracted to their own race, because they are similar. They say, that people look for a mate who is similar to their parents, so that would include race too.
i did a paper on this... the whole attraction action. familiarity, similarity, blah blah blah blah.. it's interesting stuff if you look into it all. it's bring up horrible memories of all the research i had to do . ugh ugh.. so many pages. but.. it makes for an interesing read.
ya know what this is all about..... its about me being black isnt it? ya know... just cause i cant dress and match as well as hilldan DOESNT mean laugh and laugh when i wear pokadot ties with striped shirts ok!
In the end its all about brotherly love. If ya dont show it now then you wont show it later