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"Situation" Arises

violetboregaurd by violetboregaurd · Mar 12, 2004 · 418 views · Journal

So why is it that certain people feel the need to say whatever comes in to their head? No matter how crass or hurtful it is.

Case in point - a brother in my hall (PA) felt the need to ask a really personal question of me in field service, amongst the car group. My reaction, well i did my best to not burst out in tears or become enraged.
Now him and I are "friends" on the level of us being in the same hall together and being out in service on the same days. He is married and from what he's explained has a rough situation. His wife is disfellowshipped, there are some issues there.

Needless to say - I usually cut him a break for the stuff he says, as do most of the friends that know his situation, but here is the thing... how MUCH slack should I cut him?
Did you ever know someone who had the tendency to be really ridiculous with the stuff they said and when you asked them about it or confronted them - they'd blame it on their "situation"?
Or are there really that many people who simply lack the sense of how to talk to someone else?

I dunno, I am not a super sensitive person - but I cannot stand rudeness or shear lack of tact - it's so aggravating.

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51 Comments

fivezero #1 fivezeroOG 2003

Never feel bad about telling someone to mind their own business if they're prying about something personal.

yay #1.1 yayOG 2004

oh ok - yeah so stop asking me about my mom valentina you hypocrit

fivezero #1.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

forget it, dude. your mama owes me!

thatdarngirl #2 thatdarngirlOG 2002

Bad situations (such as the one that brother is in) can explain moodiness and maybe sometimes an overall grouchy attitude even, and that's understandable to a certain degree. However, there is no reason to say hurtful things to other people no matter what your situation is (meaning the person saying the hurtful things). We are all human beings and even more importantly, we are all brothers and sisters so its even more important to be loving towards each other. Of course we all understand that we can slip up sometimes and say things that we shouldn't but to be constantly doing it and blaming it on a situation that effects them in a bad way is silly. They know right from wrong and they should know that what they're saying is innappropriate and not use their situation as an excuse to speak their mind freely.

hunkpapap #3 hunkpapapOG 2003

i ususally just say something that makes them feel stupid...

hunkpapap #3.1 hunkpapapOG 2003

just be like, "how's your wife doing?"

fivezero #3.1.1 fivezeroOG 2003

Hahaha! Good one. I was thinking along the lines of "i'd appreciate it if you didn't open your rotten trap toward me. you're a sad man, who needs to get over himself. die or get better!"

hunkpapap #3.1.1.1 hunkpapapOG 2003

OR, "Now i know why she left you!"

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

Man, you are going for full emotional obliteration, eh?

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003

Say it with me now, 'Nothing is off limits and no one is out of bounds'

fivezero fivezeroOG 2003

That's the tagline from HBO Sports with Bryant Gumble! Good show!

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

that's the tagline for patrick and yoda's lives...ahahah

violetboregaurd #3.2 violetboregaurdOG 2003

i did that with him the day we were in service and he sorta shut up - but it's still crass none the less.

B
#4 brothermanOG 2004

I can relate in a way to that brother. My wife left me about 6 months ago. She is in the world and even though we have two kids together, does not want to work things out. I was devestated, but never blamed others for what happened. It was me that married a woman that didn't share my beliefs. Now I am paying the price. All I can do is worry about my kids and myself. And personally I find encouragement from other people in my hall. That brother needs to do the same and maybe he'll realize he's being dumb about certain things he may be saying.

omegatweeter #4.1 omegatweeterOG 2003

hang in there bro! you're a fine example

iwz #4.2 iwz

always good to lean on your congregation, and Jehovah.

what hall are you in?

B
#4.2.1 brothermanOG 2004

I go to Randolph.

violetboregaurd #4.3 violetboregaurdOG 2003

yeah im sorry to hear that, but keeping close to the hall and firends is the best thing to do. Jehovah is near to those crushed and broken in spirit - he will take care of you and your kids no matter what.

B
#4.3.1 brothermanOG 2004

Yes. I find being at the meetings and associating with the friends is very refreshing. Maybe one day when I'm a free agent again, I'll be blessed and find a nice sister with her head screwed on straight. hehe...

hunkpapap #4.3.1.1 hunkpapapOG 2003

not if i find her first...

specialk specialkOG 2003

Boys, there are plenty of them out there for all of you. :)

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003

i know, i was just kiddin...

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

pat get jacked first

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003

i know i'm currently following the MK school of finding a woman. (Operation DS-Part II)

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

that's my favorite kind of operation!! next i think you need to go shopping at the "all orange shorts, all the time" store. then just sit back and wait for the ladies to approach

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003 skaorsk8

orange shorts? your pickup line would be, i'll stop traffic for you baby!

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002 hunkpapap

More like "get you run over baby" everyone knows orange means speed up

violetboregaurd #4.3.1.2 violetboregaurdOG 2003

yeah there are a lot of beautiful sisters in our organization. The same goes for brothers... a lot of really good ones too.

specialk #5 specialkOG 2003

I totally know how you feel. We have a brother in our hall who sounds exactly like the brother you are talking about. His wife isn't a Witness either, and he's always saying stupid stuff. For example....we were out in service one day and he was in my car group, with some other people I didn't know really well. He chose that particular time to inquire as to why my parents got a divorce, which normally doesn't bother me(because I was 10 when it happened), but the way he asked was really nosy and embarrassing. I just sort of avoided the question, by making a really vague comment.
That's how I'd handle the situation with this brother. If he's always saying rude stuff, that's one thing. But if he just doesn't know how to be tactful, don't give him any more information than he needs. It's hard when that person is your friend, but you have to wonder, if he's so blunt towards you in front of other people, what's going to stop him from talking about it to others? I'd only give him very minimal information about you from now on, so he has nothing to talk about, and if he keeps it up, then I'd maybe explain that his lact of tact is really hurting you. :)

specialk #5.1 specialkOG 2003

Also, I actually have a friend who is SO lacking in tact. He got divorced about 2 and a half years ago, and since then, he's become what he likes to call "brutally honest." Meaning, he's going to tell you what he thinks, and if you get hurt, sorry...that's just the way he is. And he'll tell you that if you were his true friend, you'd accept him for the way he is, and not complain, even though he hurts your feelings.

MY THOUGHT on that....it's a total cop-out. Regardless of anyone's situation, that's no excuse to hurt people's feelings, especially those who are supposed to be your friend.

violetboregaurd #5.2 violetboregaurdOG 2003

yeah i try to be as vague as possible with him - i mean even to the point of a little jabbing sarcasm in the hopes he gets what not to ask and what not to say. But a friend of mine said that maybe he just has that much of an inability to talk to people. He may be that clueless.

specialk #5.2.1 specialkOG 2003

Yeah....I know people like that. You just have to keep acting a certain way towards them, and hopefully they get the hint. I'm sorry he made you feel bad, though. Here....I'm sending you a hug via internet. :)

violetboregaurd #5.2.1.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

thanks. i love to be hugged.

specialk specialkOG 2003

Good....I love giving hugs...works out well. :)

rocksupastar #6 rocksupastarFounder

Yea... sometimes i find myself saying something and then eating my foot cause it was "crass" i guess or just plain dumb... sometimes, not saying this is an excuse... but sometimes guys say things without thinking about what the other person would think especially women... But yeah, i guess depending on what he said, he really should know better, i suggest a carefully placed kick in the jewels will help him remember for next time.

violetboregaurd #6.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

lol - yeah u gotta meet this guy. You are nothing like him... but thanks for the pointers.

thewalkhome #7 thewalkhomeOG 2003

my cats breath name is mittens. sorry...just a random thought. lauren..i told you, if you cant beat him, egg his car. or get me to do it for you. im cheap.

hunkpapap #7.1 hunkpapapOG 2003

or put frosted flakes on his windshield. I mean nothing says, "You're a hot sexy admin of the greatest site on earth and we all love you" like a box of frosted flakes on the windshield.

iwz #7.1.1 iwz

forget it, buttering me up isn't gonna make me love you

skaorsk8 #7.1.1.1 skaorsk8OG 2002

HAHAHHAH fortunately for ian, mikayla was there to protect him

violetboregaurd #7.1.2 violetboregaurdOG 2003

ha ha Huh?

rocksupastar #7.1.2.1 rocksupastarFounder

dont ask, its a very sore subject... lol

punkprincess #8 punkprincessOG 2001

hahahahaha i absolutely love that you just randomly write once in a while the most hilarious comments... now if you were only that funny ALL the time.... hAHAHAHA now thats comic relief. (just kidding...but come on... quigley?)

violetboregaurd #8.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

what roomie? I don't understand.

punkprincess #8.1.1 punkprincessOG 2001

i dont know why it didnt reply to adam, it was supposed to be in responce to his comment. haha sorry!

violetboregaurd #8.1.1.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

O I C

thewalkhome #8.1.1.2 thewalkhomeOG 2003

response its with an "s" dear...and baptize is with a "z". i love you...haHA!

ophelia #9 opheliaOG 2003

yeah, every cong has one'a these...best thing to do, as hard as it may be, is to let the person know that some of the things they say have a tendency to offend people..&..if the person's humble & realizes we all need to make adjustments, that should be enough..but...well..some people like to make excuses instead of making changes

violetboregaurd #9.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

yeas yeas - but this brother is oh so not humble, and I hate saying that about anyone. But he has a way about him that is very (UGH). But thank you for the advice.

ophelia #9.1.1 opheliaOG 2003

then.....just slap'm next time he gets outa line...you have my permission..

violetboregaurd #9.1.1.1 violetboregaurdOG 2003

woo hoo can u send me something signed to back that up... lol.

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