What is going on you Newly Married Couples
by Lately there has been an epidemic going on of people I know who have been married a year to 3 at the most now in the stages of divorce. 2 situations with one mate saying they want to be wordly!..
WHAT ... WHY ...? I ask.
Wordly. Let's think about this. Is there even really anything to think about. Wordly people will tell you the world has nothing to offer you.
I just don't even know where to go from here with this conversation. It is unbeleiveable. With in the past 4 months 3 of my friends are in the divorce stage!
Marriage - TILL DEATH DO YOU PART.
Statistic.
Has the weeding work really begun and will I see more of my friends say they want to be a part of the WORLD.? How heart breaking this is!
Now is the time more then ever to stay close to jehovah & the congregation.
As some of our friends choose a wordly lifestyle will we yearn to follow, as some of them have the attitude of independence will we follow?
I can't take it anymore STOP FOLLOWING.
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OH MY GOODNESS STEF, ME TOO. It is so crazy how many young marriages are just falling apart. It is so sad. And some of them I see them falling apart in slow motion, and no matter how hard I try to help, it's beyond my help which upsets me so much. You don't have a chance if you both don't stay close to Jehovah.
As the end gets closer and closer, we will see this magnify. That is why when we choose partners we need to make sure they share the same mindset. It's nice to have a beautiful wife or handsome husband, but that is not the most important quality. I think we all know what the most important quality should be. Take it from someone who has already chosen poorly. When you go through the misery that comes with choosing poorly, you're more inclined to make the right choice the next time. And I also disagree with people getting married at 18 or 19. They're playing with fire. You're a different person at that age than you will be at 25 or older. Again I know from experience.
Ya i kind of agree with the getting married young thing. You are totally different from 18 to even 20. But i also kind of disagree cause i think it depends on the person. My parents got married at 20 & 21 & they are still happily married, my grandparents, happily married, my sister happily married, so it depends on the person but it is true you do change between those ages.
It does depend on the person, but it's still a risk. When you think about it, a person that age hasn't even experienced much of grown up life by that time. They have no idea of the pressures of supporting themselves without parents helping. There's alot to go through before one should be thinking of marriage. Some can take it as they go, others, well they fall apart under the pressure.
It's true
Stef,
You are so right... I can't believe how many witnesses have gone through divorces because one mate has chosen to go to the world. A close friend of mine went through a divorce last year and I was shocked because the brother seemed to be doing so well spiritually, but all of a sudden he just lost sight of what was important in life, and in doing so he twisted and manipulated the feelings of someone who truly cared for him... As Brotherman brought out... Im sure the next person she chooses will be someone she will be disecting for a long time, because you dont want to make the same mistake, and also she was only 19 when she got married, so it truly does solidify Brotherman's comment about you being a different person when your 19 to when your 25.
The sad part is, I met someone over July 4th weekend who his wife after a year of marraige, left him for some guy at the gym... Once again, he agreed also that he was too young to get married, also only 19, and that next time he will make a better decision.
We truly are living in the time of the end... Im sure there have been divorces in the past, but now, even within the organization, kids dont think twice about it... They are taking marraige so lightly, and that truly is so sad... To think Jehovah created Man to be with a Woman and when someone thinks they finally found their match and for it to fall apart, you can only imagine how heart breaking that is....
Truly, Jehovah is not pleased....
EXACTLY-- they are taking marriage so lightly.
well, about 4-5 years ago there was a HUGE HUGE HUGE wave of young marriages.
HUGE
and you know that following that, is gonna be either a huge wave of babies, or divorces
i think divorces won in this case, because there's not that many new babies
yeah. although it is a good thing it wasnt a wave of babies and then a wave of their divorces. Eessh
That's true, very true.
Let this be a lesson to our community of teeny boppers. WAIT!!
oh yeah. don't get me wrong, i don't regret marrying garrett at all, even in the least bit..but we both agree that we were really young when we got married and i was 21 and he was 23. when the young girls in the hall talk to me about finding a guy and they are like 16, i tell them, just wait. have fun, be young and enjoy it. afterall, we will have forever right?
and seriously the reason this is happening is because the moment a girl turns 20 and is single everyone looks at her like something is wrong with her
when are you gonna find someone, when are you gonna get married, do you have a boyfriend yet, that's all that young girls hear
it's SO ridiculous to me because young people are constantly pressured into marriage by older people, as if the older ones don't realize how SERIOUS marriage is and how much work it is etc. etc. etc. it really saddens me
and then of course you're not allowed to have babies because HOW DARE YOU bring a baby into this world
eh people don't really make sense
See I don't remember there being any pressure on me to get married when i was single , I duno if that's becuase i just didn't hear it and forgot about it, or no one ever pressured me. I duno. lol
you're one of the fortunate ones!
Its funny as a guy you never really get the "when are you getting married" talk... In all honesty, they dont start asking until your like 28 or 30... But for sisters, they get it right when they turn 21... they give you the "your an adult now, why arent you dating anyone, or why dont you want to get married?"
I feel bad because it can get very discouraging for sisters... some may feel that if they are still single at 25 that they have missed the train, because most of the guys older and around their age are now pursuing the 21 year olds...
Maybe some sisters are afraid of that scenario and get married when their younger so they dont feel like they missed the train...
Its like a vicious cycle... It all goes to having fun while your single and dont live your life to get married, but live your life for singleness and if the right person comes along, there will be blessing, and if they dont, there will also be blessings....
this is true. A few of my really good female friends that attend the spanish cong just turned 30 and are being pressured to get married and they're jsut seeking anyone out to date and marry. I try so hard to warn them that this is VERY dangerous in the long run.
Thats so true, but Im sure when they look around the brothers that they are truly interested in are probably interested in someone younger than them, so they probably feel like anyone will do, because they aren't going to get what they want anyways... its just wrong...
What's the deal with age? If a sister is good looking and nice why should it matter if she's older? Are some brothers using a standard I am unaware of?
he's just saying majority of guys my age are going for girls that're 21ish to 25ish...which i def agree with.
So if you were a single sister looking for a mate and are at the age of 26-30, its not very encouraging...
UNLESS you look younger for your age...LOL
Speaking as a 27 year old guy I can give you at least two reasons for that:
First, there's a ton more single sisters in that age range. By the time they reach the 26-30 range most of them are either married off, or in the world. Heck, most of them are married off by the time they reach the 21-25 range. Most of the single sisters that I know are in the 18-20 range, and most of them are already dating someone.
Second, the ones that are left, at least most of the ones I've met, have serious flaws. I'm not saying there aren't marriageable sisters in that range, (I have met a few) but they are hard to find, and usually hard to get to know since they are so busy with their own lives.
Hahaha - I love the way you put "good looking" before "nice". That's great.
lol i thought the same thing
I think that's cause they assume that it's somehow easy for a guy to get married in the truth. If he makes it to thirty they assume he's either too picky, or NPG.
NPG, haven't heard THAT in a while
Well you know the reason for older guys with younger girls don't know?
It's due to a guy taking longer to get established because a man has to step up to being the breadwinner and by the time they're financially stable and whatnot, they're older and all the girls their age have already been married because it took the bloke too long.
I made more money than Donovan when we got married. He got a job offer on our honeymoon, so we weren't married for long, but still...
I always thought guys just take a little longer to mature and actually want to get married.
I know a lot of couples who the wives actually had more money, my cousin (who got married at 25) made more money than her husband (at the time)... she paid for the whole wedding herself, than he got a job promotion a couple years later and they are about even par... just in time, because she is expecting a baby ASAP...
Several of my aunts dished out anywhere from 10-20,000 for their weddings because the husbands at the time didn't have it...
What do you mean by the comment about guys taking longer to mature and want to get married? Are you saying a lot of immature guys rush into marraige??
No, I'm saying, at least in my opinion, guys take more time to want to settle down. In fact, I've only known a couple guys who got married at about 21-22, and I remember thinking that all of them (except 1) were way to immature. And those are the couples that constantly fight in public now.
Yeah that makes sense... I didnt think about that aspect of it... I can see how guys who didnt want to settle down never really get to grow up, because once you did everything you wanted to do when you are single, thats when you really start taking things seriously and thats when you contemplate about settling down.
If you rush, you could blame your mate as someone who prevented you from having fun in life, or restricted you from really doing what you want in life. Hence the public fighting and the disrespecting of each other, another thing that obviously isnt good for a healthy marraige
Maybe. I actually would like to get married now tho. Only, it might be not until several or more realistically speaking. Especially since I don't have a girl or money. heh
Oh yeah. It is like crazy to have a witness that is older then 20 and single around here. to much pressure.
Someone at 20 shouldn't be panicking about finding someone. And others need to think before they speak. They could cause a person to be stumbled.
one positive thing i can say is that recently a friend of a friend of mine has come back into the truth after a couple years of being inactive/worldly
and she realized the world has NOTHING to offer after living in it and doing all those things she thought she was missing out on, she said she has everything she wants and everything she ever wanted in life, and she's not happy, because she doesn't have Jehovah
and now she is back and regrets wasting all that time
so you never know
yeah i've learned never to give up on anyone. with my friends, i call them like once every other month to let them know that i care and that the door is always open for them to come back and i will be the first one there for them.
I think part of the problem too is that even when you start dating someone, people start questioning you six months into your courtship about when you're going to get married. I mean, I didn't like dating for so long before I got married, but I know for a fact that Donovan and I don't fight as much as other couples, because we worked out a lot of issues before we became roommates. There's pressure to date and then pressure to marry, when there should be pressure to think about your decisions.
It's sad though becuase you can some times see who will stay married and who will not. & when it does it is still a shock but it's also like yeah i kinda saw that happening..
This is funny,
A sister a while ago says to me at an assembly it is so good to see you and brandon doing so well together and yada yada,gives me this great big hug, and staying in jehovah's orginization yada yada,, meanwhile this sister knew brandon for quite some time. & he's not a bad kid, & neither am I
SO i am like what? haha what made you think we wouldn't be together.
She says I duno i just, someone had said something to me, and i didn't think you would be good, and yada yada,
So i am just looking at her like ookkayy.
Come to find out a relative, VERY close relative I wont mention who , had mentioned to this sister what she thought about me and brandon and that i am not good, and that we shouldn't be married yada YADA..
it was shocking and not at the same time becuase of who it came from , it was more of an expected shock.
Wow! Family stinks. haha.. I lived with my family for 2+ years after my marriage broke up. They have a way of telling you how it is. Now being away from them is more refreshing. People need to learn not to speak their inner monologue.
It is a really good thing i am not a sensitive person cause this person Really could have hurt my feelings with something like this. but instead i kind of had a feeling she was telling people this anway so this basically just confirmed it. ha ha but honestly if you all knew this person it wouldn't be shocking either.
at least you can prove to her that she is wrong. haha
The person should also remember that gossiping can hurt.
yeah, i hate when people gossip. its very hurtful.
I think this is all Jessica Simpson's fault!
If she and Nick can't make it work, WHO CAN?!?!? WHO!!?!?!
pretty much!
accident
when you find the right person, being married to them is the most wonderful thing in the world. but you better be sure that they are right for you though, because if not, you will be miserable.
Yea, i just don't really don't get, how you can be so crazy in love with someone, and then HATE them and can't stand living with them anymore. I really wonder what it is that happens.
I think a big help in my marriage was the fact that Austin & I were friends for a good year before we had any real romantic interest in eachother. And because of that, you get to see how the person is, without them putting on any fronts to impress you. You know exactly what you're getting into!
I mean, not everyone would have this kind of situation, and we still dated for a year before we got married, but that is why i think it is important to date for a long enough time to really get to know the person you're going to spend the rest of your life with.
Liam and I did about the same thing as you and austin, we were just friends for around a year and then dated for about a year. I think it really helped. Your bond of friendship has to be just as strong as your bond of love.
Also, we both had lived on our own before we got married. I think this was very helpful in having practical expectations about marriage and life in general (paying bills, keeping your own schedule, maintaining spiritual balance - all with out the aid of parents)
I totally agree that living on your own is a huge help. I lived alone for about a year, but Donovan never did, and I maintain that that's the reason he doesn't think to do the dishes when the sink gets full - he never developed a sense of necessity to take care of himself. His mother stayed at home and did everything, literally so I partially blame her for not training him in the least bit. And you can tell that couples who both lived just with their parents before they were married still have that mentality of not doing any housework until they're told to. Lots o' fights develop that way.
my male bestfriend has been living on his own for a LONG time now....although he is super clean, he NEVER does his dishes. Some just never learn. LOL
NOOOOOOOO!!!! Don't tell me there's no hope! :( :( :( :(
do you not have a dishwasher?
Nope. My kitchen is so tiny I cry about it nightly. :)
hahaha sorry. if its not their thing, its not their thing. I always do his dishes.
a similar thing happens with my friend mike and everyone else. He never does the dishes or take out the trash. His wife waits until his company does it...
Mike was just as much of a slob when he lived with Jon. But if people who come keep doing the dishes, he'll never learn.
we'll let him live with my kids. Then he'll realize he has to clean. haha..
the wife should be doing the household duties....if the hubby helps out that def is a bonus and you've got a good man! even tho i'm independent, im def still old fashioned....to where the house is my domain.
Will you marry me? LOL!
hahaha awww....key words: west coast latin girls....we're raised different. lol
yeah, but in a way i have mike to thank for that.... got me an addition to the family :)
i do agree with the living on your own thing, although i did not, i think i should have...not as far as house cleaning things...cuz i'm sort of a neat freak, but as far as money situations go, because i don't think i have a totally realistic view of money, cuz i always had my mom & dad there to help out, and now Austin is my touchstone for that kind of stuff, i think i am getting better with it, but it would've been best if i dealt with it on my own.
im so sorry to hear this. this is def sad. I've had some friends too that have left heir mate for the world...the thing is...we have to seriously remember we dont fit in with the world no matter HOW immoral we are being. you def realize this...as my friends have. its sad but they had to learn the hard way.
also i too have a good amt of friends getting divorced or are just together because they dont want to break up the "arrangement" jehovah has set. A lot of young ones who get married (some older ones too) mistake loving someone and being in love. Anyone can love...but it takes being IN LOVE to make marriages work...the giving and complimenting each other.
AHHHH MARRiAGE
Silly people and their silly marriages end in silly divorces.
Serioues people and their serious marriages end in serioues divorces.
That absolutely makes no sense
i love you haha
it totally makes sense, dude - you need a perfect mix of silly and serious, stir it up, and you have a good marriage
haha
noo marriage only works when you really want to have sexual relations and the person you want to have it with is the cutest of all their friends...
thats the KEY to marriage.
genius
I know. I'm amazing.
I also find that... once you slightly feel pressure to get married yet there is no-one perfect for you - SETTLING is the best option. Definately settle.
yea..
See Marriage is a door with many Keys.
marriage is a door that looks smaller and smaller all the time. and i aint alice. and this aint wonderland.
you're late
you're late
for a very important date
i'm always right on time
chA-rue
Yea...
my marriage situation is goign to be
Silly people in a serious marriage
ends in super awesome good times.
That is until she talks back to me... and doesn't buy me fruit snacks everytime she goes shopping.
i mean seriously
LOL
Ah I cant tell you how many fruit snacks i bought over the past three years.
seriously.. fruit snacks are the key to a successful marriage.
anything ever goes wrong.. or someone is upset.. just show up neked with fruitsnacks.
you just can't be angry anymore after that
My grandma always said the way to a mans heart is through his stomach.
don't even get me started.
When people ask me when I'm getting married (and I do get this all the time, partly because I have a boyfriend) I tell them never. It throws them off.
i get the same. I tell them i'm waiting till paradise cause then i'll have my perfect man. LOL they cant argue with that. LOL
so what was all that one in a million talk?
what do you mean one in a million??
Mary...what do you think the chances are of a girl like me and a guy like you ending up together?
Wow Lloyd, that's difficult to say....
C'mon Mary, I came a long way just to see you, the least you can do is level with me.
Not good.
Not good like one out of a hundred?
I'd say more like one out of a million.
So you're telling me there's a chance!
OHHHHHH Ok. LOL
ok so this is kinda funny...me and garrett were dating for like 2 years at this point, and people asked us like crazy, when are you guys getting married blah blah. so to be funny, garrett is like "ohhh i like not being married, i don't think anytime soon". so here's the funny part, i didn't know he was kidding around. i actually thought that he had no intention on marrying me. i was so upset because we were friends for like 3 years and then dated for 2 and then my friends didn't know he was joking either and they were all like, oh he's a jerk he's messing with you dump him blah blah. haha. but then he proposed and then i asked him and he's like oh my i'm so sorry i was just joking around. oi yoi.
I'm not married just yet but, I'd like to add my two cents.
I always heard the biggest problems are with finance and intimacy issues.
Personally, I happen to have excellent forethought and reasonable judgement so I manage my finances very well.
With respects to the other, deal with it.
Otherwise I figured that as long as your relationship w/ Jehovah + spiritual things come first with both partners.... you respect you mate, they're your best friend above all, you trust them, and obviously love them although difficulties may arise you'll get through them.
I don't really understand this disturbing trend unless it's just that to start off neither people are mature enough mentally for the relationship and still babes spiritually as well =/
It seems to me like such a privilege to serve Jehovah in your youth and reach your goals together =)
+ your two crazy kids plenty of good times to be had and memories to make but, it does take effort.
There's definitely some married couples that aren't spiritually mature enough. It sucks that some couples don't realize that even though they're avoiding the snares of immorality by getting married, they're definitely being caught in another one of satan's traps; that is getting married when not prepared.
I think the maturity issue is the major one that gets most of the young couples in the truth. Too often both of them are still living at home when they get married and the shock of suddenly having to take care of themselves AND take care of another person's emotional and physical needs just overwhelms them. This is why I think it is so important to live on your own before you even think about getting married. You change dramatically just in the first few months of being out of your parents' house. Even if your parents' have made you done chores and take care of things around the house, there is nothing quite like being completely responsible for your own survival and well-being.
This is so true I've had this conversation with a few mature married sisters.
Aside from even considering marriage at this point I just think it's a good idea for one to get out on their own to develop a greater sense of self sufficiency/ responsibility and get to know themself a little better.
My background has lent to a little more self sufficiency in itself because I've never really been coddled. Currently I spend about 85% of my time alone just getting things done. I'm also in a foreign language congregation alone so I'm already responsible for myself in everyway.
Being in a different congregation from your parents helps too. I know I've changed somewhat since leaving my parents' congregation, though it wasn't nearly as drastic a change as when I moved out.
lauren and i invested a lot of time in talking about finances, planning our finances, spreadsheeting our finances, and then setting up the system.
Now, we have a conversation about money that lasts about 2 minutes per month. And the conversation goes like this - "wow we saved the money we wanted to this month- what should we do with it?"
It's not like we're rich, we just planned correctly. We have (no joke) 3 checking accounts, and 4 savings accounts. My friends thought I was crazy when I told them that - but it makes sense. We both contribute money to our joint checking account - and there is always enough in there to pay all bills. She gets the rest of her paycheck in her personal account (she can buy whatever she wants - out to eat, movies, shoes, cards, gas, etc) and I get the rest of my paycheck in my personal account (which i use to pay off my credit card ... argh .. but i use that for going out, gas, etc).
For the multiple savings accounts - Saving for a house is different from saving for a vacation - do you want to use your house savings on your vacation? of course not. so plan it out.
And then when you're ready you buy the house from me for an awesome deal :)
Good job on the financial control. That's commendable.
ahem... i bought them a book on financial planning for couples when they got engaged (its called "Smart Couples Finish Rich" and there is a workbook for anyone whos interested and theres also "Smart Women Finish Rich" and Smart Men Finish Rich" and you can buy it from Staples
I actually know about a couple older ones that have split up. It's really sad.
Altho, yeh, younger ones are more prone to, since it's a drastic change, married life.
I definately think it's best to live on your own for a bit, before waiting til marriage.
Oh man I missed this thread, I'm an expert at this topic.
They both don't like the same foods, so dinner time is realy rough time, in turn causing a void in the marriage.
It's all about food. I know, believe me, I feel it, and I let it show in my songs.
All the problems in the world are food, it starts back in ancient times, it's always about food. Wah, I want water, Wah I want bread. Now it's wah I want Pollo En Mole Verde or Bistecca alla Fiorentina
The way to a man's heart is through his stomach ladies. Remember this... LOL!
I've planned in advance...while 'tis true I myself and of the VEGAN sort, I am totally flexable* and have no intention of imposing my dietary practices on my better half =P
*I'll cook it 4 him but, I won't eat the MEAT ;)
I wonder how many other sisters are like this. I've tended to shy away from vegetarian (and especially vegan) sisters for just that reason.
I think we need to take a poll on this: How many of you sisters out there would cook something for your husband/boyfriend that you personally would not eat? Maybe even something you find repugnant?
Haha - not me! I buy Donovan some foods that he likes that I think are disgusting, like potato bread. But he eats better with me making culinary choices for him. If given the choice, would you want a sandwich or lamb stew for lunch?
I guess it would depend on the sandwich...
what exactly IS patato bread anyway?
It's one of the most wonderful inventions known to man. It's bread made from potatoes.
Haha just had this mental image come to mind... after darth potato slices up storm trooper potato... he makes a sandwich. :-)
Your sense of humor is so refreshing,LOL!
I have Darth Tater...really need to buy Spud Trooper.
Lamb stew. I'm totally willing to let a girl decide what I eat, and I'm sure I'd eat much better that way, but I don't want someone trying to force vegetarianism on me.
I agree. Whenever someone asks me what I want to eat I get kind of annoyed. With most of my friends I tend to make the decisions, but when it comes to eating out I always delegate. I don't care what I eat. I'm like a garbage disposal. I'll eat anything. If I ever get married I'll certainly look forward to the missus surprising me and making me whatever she feels like making.
it is so nice having a wife that loves to make food for you :)
i always enjoy the surprise too of opening my lunch bag at work.
that's awesome. does she include lil notes?
wow, your wife makes you lunch too? i tried that for austin for awhile, but i can never think of what to make, so instead of eating a sandwhich everyday, i think he's happier going out to eat lunch.
yeah, she always makes me lunch. it's SOO much cheaper. that's the main thing, really. plus, she tells me that she loves making lunch for me. i guess she's just too in love. awwww
favorite thing: she puts the lettuce in a separate baggie so my sandwich doesn't get soggy. \m/
Awww SHUT UP w/ that, sooo sweet.
I'm the same way. Unfortunately, because so many of my friends are married, unless I take the lead in suggesting places to go after the meetings or after service we all just end up going home which kinda stinks for me.
Lamb stew would obviously be my choice for eating. No idea what to think of Potato bread, never heard of the idea, and subsequently never had it. Altho, I wouldn't object to having rarebit. That's a bread-dish.
i hate meatballs but i sometimes make them for chris, because i'll pretty much do anything for him, :)
it's been a while actually, hey chris do you want meatballs?
I've cooked andrew stuff he likes that I don't. Also having food restrictions sometimes I cook him stuff with regular ingredients and then cook for me with special ingredients. but he's learning that special ingredients aren't much different tasting than regular ones.
no problem doing this. i've cleaned calamari for my dad and it makes me want to yak. i can't picture anything else grossing me out more than that.
It's funny you mention calamari here. My mom used to tell me this story about how her grandmother used to cook calamari for her grandfather. Apparently she hated the smell so much that she would be holding her nose, facing away from the pot while she stirred it.
i wear rubber gloves and put a clothespin on my nose. so glad i moved out!
i would def do that. i'm not a dinner person and watch what i eat but just because thats MY way of eating, doesnt mean my man has to ya know.
yea, i've cooked lots of things, that i dislike, but austin likes. i know if he could cook he'd do the same for me. :)
I cook things for brandon all time that i wont eat. Like i hate Veal, pork loin, antipasto, and a few other things. I don't want him to miss out on foods just cause i dont like them and goodness knows i am picky. lol. I don;t like cheese but if i cut cheese out that'd would be a crime so i am told.
YOU DON'T LIKE CHEESE!? cheese, is like, the best thing, ever! i've never met anyone that doesnt like SOME kind of cheesey goodness...(well except dan, but i'm pretty sure he still eats soy cheese)
I don't really like cheese that much either - I'll eat a little fresh mozzarella and of course grated parm and pecorino, but that's about it. Donovan loves it because if we order the same thing at a restaurant, he'll always get my cheese, which gives him double! I even give him the cheese off my pizza.
My son rips the cheese off pizza too.
Doesn't even just the cooking of it, go against veganhood?
seriously, but i also think that the world's problems can be solved with food, particularly ice cream, chocolate and tea. i mean how can you be mad at someone when you are eating ice cream and or drinking tea. they should try it in the middle east-it would be instant peace over there.
don't forget fruit snacks
how can you be mad while looking at a tiny yellow face of superman and a tiny grey face of lex luthor
seriously. aaaand they are arch enemies. if they can live together in peace in the fruit snacks packet, anyone can get along.
reaf what's going on with you posting pictures of your hair every 5 minutes, and your website every 10 minutes
i need to start posting a lot of pictures of my hair
whats with you being obsessed with her and stalking her via her website every 10 minutes.....