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wasnt there a journal here about the matrix sequel? I think my vision is going save meeeeeeeeee......
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yeah, there was... it disappeared! i swear it wasn't me
Hmmmmm... I'll wait til it's on TV.... never saw the first one, but I know it was on channel 5 last Friday night
it was also playing on the demo tv's at best buy
Is there a PG-13 rated version available of the first one?
yea it's call close your eyes whenever you think someting to your dislking is about to appear.
also why was it rated r? there was no cursing, no nudity, just lots of gunfire in certain scenes but nothing to deserve a r rating
here's a quote:
"Here's a brief summary of the content found in this R-rated, sci-fi film. Violence is extreme with many brutal martial arts fighting scenes and intense gun battle sequences, many of which have lethal and occasionally bloody results. Other gore is related to the sight of objects puncturing the skin of certain characters and/or the resulting holes once those objects are removed.
While there's not much in the way of traditional scary film frights, all of those violent and other action-oriented scenes may be quite intense to many viewers, and the cool-looking martial arts fighting may prove to be imitative to some kids. The film's profanity consists of nearly 20 "s" words as well as other words and phrases.
Beyond that, the other categories have little or nothing in the way of major objectionable content. Nonetheless, and considering what is present, you may want to take a closer look at what's been listed should you still be concerned with the film's appropriateness for you or anyone else in your home. "
and for matrix: reloaded... http://www.screenit.com/movies/2003/the_matrix_reloaded.html
The following is a brief summary of the content found in this R-rated sci-fi film. Profanity consists at least 2 "f" words, 13 "s" words, and other expletives and colorful phrases are present. Part of a sex scene is seen (the beginning and end show full body shots with some partial nudity, while the middle head and shoulders one includes implied movement and kissing, etc.).
Other passionate making out occurs, hordes of people participate in some clothed "dirty dancing" style activity (with what looked like a brief shot of bare breasts through a transparent shirt), and some sexually related dialogue is present.
Violence consists of a great deal of highly-stylized and occasionally brutal martial arts violence (done in an exaggerated comic book/sci-fi style) as well as gunfire where various characters (some of which really aren't "real") are killed. Other deaths and attempts on lives are also present. Some of those scenes have bloody results and, along with other moments, may be intense, unsettling or suspenseful to viewers. Property damage and destruction also occur.
Some kids may be enticed to imitate all of the fighting and stunts that occur in the film, one character has wine and various characters have varying degrees of bad attitudes. Should you still be concerned about the film's appropriateness for yourself or anyone else in your home, you may want to look more closely at our detailed listings for more specific information regarding the film's content."
I love this guys comments... "implied" he "implies" everything, i hate this site... i hope the guy croaks sometime so he will stop this nonesense...
Nevertheless, we are counselled not to wtch R rated movies, not to look for loopholes in seeing them cause we may be interested in them (not really directed just at you Mike.. Ty's comment above merits a reply too)
oh i was seriuos. didn't know that.
the descriptions pretty pg-13-ish
if they show blood somehow movies are R, yet watch the stupid channel with all the surgery and watch me puke, now thats bloody. And all the other scifi tv shows or whatever with people gettin shot and dying yet thats ok but show a drop of blood to the public and oh boy watch out! Not lookin for argument im just sayin they are kinda hypocritical with some of this stuff, although some stuff is pretty stinkin bloody and little kids shouldnt see, but movies like the first matrix werent like that.
this is a topic that could go on forever. i saw the first matrix and i was more offended by an endless list of PG-13 movies i've seen. the new adam sandler flick made me feel worse than the first matrix movie did. be that as it may, it's more than encouraged to shut out the R flicks as a principle. what if someone new, weak, or perhaps a potential householder sees us? what if it slowly kills our conscience and quietly desensitizes us and so forth. some say it's conscious matter, some don't. but if you're holding privileges i THINK it's borderline forbidden. that's the vibe i got from some conversations i've had with "people who'd know." i've seen the first matrix a couple times and here are the things that could be deemed as rough. [1]theres a drug reference at the beginning of the flick, but there was also like 5 drug references in the final episode of Dawson's Creek. i was like, "whaaattt?" anyway [2]when joe pantaliano's character is betraying everyone he uses some colorful language. [3]a young character gets shot up by some swat dudes [4]the "government office lobby" scene a number of swat guards get shot in video game style gunplay. [5]a subsequent escape scene has a guard getting a knife thrown at his head. you don't see a bloody close up, but the image is implied by the handle of the knife showing from underneath the helmet. i wasn't in the least bit bugged by the kung fu scenes. jackie chan has been getting away with brutally dropping 20 men in 20 seconds in PG-13 flicks since i was...shoot, since i was a twinkle in my mothers eye. i thought the fights in the matrix were amazing and very intricate. i wasn't jarred at all. i'll tell what was hardcore: deathstrike slashing up wolverine at the end of the new PG-13 XMEN flick. the kung fu in the matrix is like powerrangers on...nevermind, i almost used a drug reference...oh, i'll just say it--CRACK. powerrangers on crack. and with tons more martial arts training. personally, a strange factor that i found myself using to rationalize the kind of action sequences depicted in the matrix was that the people being capped are just incapacitated mental captives inside test tubes whose minds are loaded with a kind of "life" program, that makes them think they're really alive and being normal and going about business, when they're actually just being used to generate energy for the matrix. you don't really feel bad because they drill into you that it's fake and taking place in a computer program. nonetheless, striving for fairness, i'll label that a technical cop-out, because, really, that's what it is. you still see the person getting punched out or capped, you see them fall down and stop moving, their "life" leaves them. those are the things that could be seen as rough. but as i write them out they appear much more extreme in text format than how they actually appear cinematically. hopefully i've ruined the plot of the movie for you and that this silly massive has made you not want to see it. but i stand by the fact that i've seen much worse from normally "acceptable" PG-13 flicks, but you know...that doesn't makes it right. like i said up top, this could be infinitely "demolecularized" and debated and, really, no group would ever unanimously decide either way. additionally: the presentation of the matrix shown on network television has not one visual frame manipulated or cut. however, a handful of cusses were dropped out or dubbed over.
when i saw the first matrix i wasn't bothered by the scenes of them shooting people up because i knew it was fake. but that whole deathstrike beating up wolverine in xman2, really made me wanna hurl.
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Thing is, if the MPAA, which are worldly people, feel it merits an R rating, we, who should be babes as to badness should conside that rating too...
By the way, I got into a scrape with a brother (my age) a few years ago.. he's like "Oh yeah, if Star Trek or Star Wars was R rated, you'd still see it right?" I said no.. I really wouldn't... I meant that
and that's why there never will be...they don't want to lose audience memebers like you!
Well, if there are any more Trek movies like Nemesis, they already lost me as an audience member!!!
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so wait... you aren't allowed to watch rated r movies? did you watch the 1st one?
the last rated r movie ever?
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