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Essay - Week 1

thefunkyfresh by thefunkyfresh · Jan 25, 2002 · Article · 415 views

I just started the spring semester on Thursday, but I had a rude awakening today. Being that NJIT is a good 40 miles from my home, I had signed up for two online courses (a networking class and a writing class, both electives), hoping to reduce time spent in a car. Neither of the teachers made an attempt to contact me, so I had to go about trying to get in touch with them. Both of their email addresses listed on the school site were invalid, and the writing professor didn't even have a voicemail! I finally got her "real" email address through the human resources department at the school, and she contacted me today with her site address, and informed me that I had to read three in depth essays, and write a 600 word dissertation on them by THAT EVENING... okay great, well I probably wouldv'e procrastinated anyway. But not only that, but a 600 word essay is due EVERY Friday for the whole semester! But you know what? This is good for me. Since graduating high school, and even before, I have stopped reading almost altogether. I can't even remember the last book I read cover to cover. I need this to get my brain jump started.

Anyway, here is the essay I wrote. To really understand it you have to read the sources first, and the whole topic is really very interesting, but I doubt any of you (with the possible exception of Dean) will actually check these out. I don't expect anybody to read the whole thing, but if you can read as much of it you can stand, and give me your thoughts, I would appreciate it. As I said before, it was supposed to be 600 words (200 words devoted to each essay), but mine turned out to be about 1300 words, and even so, I don't even feel I grazed the surface of what couldv'e been said. (Interesting side note: I counted most of my writing time as service time, and why not? This teacher will be getting a witness from this)




In Darwin’s remarks in the paper entitled, “Recapitulation and Conclusion,” Darwin attempts to summarize his entire evolutionary theory, and in effect, refute all arguments that had to that point been raised against the evolutionary theory (Darwin 1). He states that only a relatively “few species are undergoing change at any one period; and all changes are slowly effected,” and that the supposed “intermediate” varieties will eventually be totally exterminated, replaced by an alleged “final product” (Darwin 2).

First of all, who is to define what an “intermediate variety” is? Darwin’s case that only a few species at any given time are evolving is merely justification of the obvious fact that there are hundreds of thousands of so-called “intermediate varieties” on the earth presently.

Darwin makes the argument that the bone structure is similar in the hand of a human, the wing of a bat, the fin of the porpoise, and in the leg of the horse (Darwin 8), so according to his theory, could not rightly each of these species be defined as “intermediate,” with each trying to attain to a sort of perfect finality? In reality, each of these species is entirely different. Darwin himself would admit the human is a much more advanced creature than the horse, the porpoise, or the bat (not to mention the only one capable of pondering this very subject). And while these different species may share some characteristics, like bone structure, this doesn’t prove his theory at all. Even humans are known to employ the same fundamental design in an assortment of inventions. Take the arch for instance; it has been used in the design of bridges, tunnels, coliseums, and countless other structures. If anything, Darwin’s mention of the fact that a great many species share similar traits merely glorifies an innovative genius: A Creator.

Darwin repeatedly acknowledges that his theory lacks scientific documentation, yet he justifies this by saying that the geological record “is far more imperfect than most geologists believe” (Darwin 2) and that it is “a poor collection made at hazard and rare intervals” (Darwin 11). Darwin claims that the geologic record is lacking, but really, it appears that he says this simply because geology does not back his porous theory. For example, no fossils of giraffes have been found with short necks, and nobody can make any claims that fossils of any intermediate species have ever been found. The geologic record shows that species remain consistent over eons of time, whereas no transitional phases can be found (Watchtower 65). When he asserts that the geologic record demonstrates that it “cannot be objected that there has not been time sufficient for any amount of organic change” (Darwin 2), he admits to the fact that the geologic record can’t be traced back far enough to even support evolution, because organisms haven’t even existed long enough on this earth to have the time to evolve into all the millions of varieties we see today.

Darwin takes a jab at creation when he marvels at the different varieties of birds, and their different structural makeup, methods of seeking out food, and habits (Darwin 5) because he can’t understand why a God would create so many varieties of a bird. His whole theory really presents a utilitarian view of life, and therefore, Darwin seems to think there is nothing more to life than survival.

John Dewey takes a similar stance when he states that “evolution insults intelligence” (Dewey 2), which is basically saying that the organism “knows” what it is trying to evolve to, and that finality surpasses intelligent thought. On the contrary, how insulting it would be to a skilled carpenter if he were told that his beautiful and well-furnished house was the product of some radical occurrence.

Dewey also says that religion as a whole is a habit; An illogical aberration that people only believe in because it has been so engrained into their way of life (Dewey 5). He paints the religious man as a spineless follower of the masses, and the believer in the evolutionary theory as a bold thinker. I suppose that I can’t blame Dewey for his thoughts on religion, or at least Christianity, because for the most part Christendom as a whole has, through the centuries, presented religious dogma as scientific fact, when in actuality it went directly against what we now knows to be the truth. But that is because Christendom has failed, not Christianity. While the Bible is not a scientific textbook, in no place in the Bible canon is there a single instance of it refuting scientific fact.

Dewey doesn’t claim to know the answers. In truth he claims that no matter what, more questions will be pop up, and so he chooses evolution mainly because the problems that are created are more specific, and easier to grasp (Dewey 4). By making this claim, Dewey undermines the evolutionary theory, by making the choice between evolution and creation a question of preference, not fact.

Stephen Jay Gould doesn’t claim to have the answers either. His conclusion: “Let each man hope and believe what he can,” destroys the theme of his paper, which was supposed to be about how a compassionate God could permit so much senseless brutality in the animal kingdom (Gould 1). While cruelty in the animal world cannot be justified, certainly God does not give man the authority to lord over the animals in a malicious way. In the first chapter of the Bible book of Genesis, verse 28 states that man should “have in subjection…every living creature.” However, nowhere in the Bible is there a condoning of animal abuse. In fact there were Israelite laws that protected animals, and in Luke 13:15 Jesus stated that a Jew should untie his donkey (something that could be considered to be work) even on the Sabbath to let it get a drink.

Using the comparison of “primitive” people to more “civilized” man, Gould tries to make the point that just because an organism has less intelligence, does not mean it suffers less (Gould 5). While physical pain is evident in the animal world, it cannot be measured outside of the human species, simply because animals lack the means to communicate it to humans in a calculable way. And Gould makes a correct statement when he says that “beasts are not moral agents” (Gould 5) because while the Bible holds out the hope of a resurrection to humans, it does not hold out such a hope to animals, because they lack the means to reason. Whereas humans have the means to make informed, intelligent decisions (2 Peter 2:12). At least, unlike Darwin, Gould realizes that there is more to life than survival. Things like love, friendship, the human conscience, and appreciation of beauty, all things which cannot evolve.

Gould is bewildered at the amount of suffering he sees in the world. Sadly, it shouldn’t have been this way. If Adam and Eve had not slipped up in the Garden of Eden, we wouldn’t see such a mess surrounding us, including the brutality we see in the animal world. His so-called “idealized world, where the lion might dwell with the lamb” (Gould 1) is really not as far off the mark as he makes it seem. Right now “the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one”(1 John 5:19) and things will not be entirely right until God wipes away this system of things and ushers in a new order.

(Note: I didn’t have the textbook so I printed these essays off of the Internet. My page numbers may differ from the ones in the textbook)

Bibliography:

Charles Darwin. “Recapitulation and Conclusion”

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Life - How Did it Get Here? New York:

Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Inc., 1985.

John Dewey, “The Influences of Darwin”

Stephen Jay Gould, “Nonmoral Nature

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76 Comments

magnum magnumOG 2001

boooorrrrinnnggg, J/K. Ill read this when i get home.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Yeah, same here..will read when Im home...

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

haha... that's what i always say too

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nine9starOG 2001

well i read it, i thought it was really good, some of the language is a bit long winded and you could easily take your word count down a hundred or two, but its good i like it, very informative and well written :D

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Nice job Nine, you must be a fast reader!

deanh77 deanh77Founder

interesting. most evolutionists today will agree that Darwin's theory is flawed, which is interesting in itself. That's why there's Neo-Darwinism.



Most people that believe in evolution (kids who are taught it in HS) do so blindly without real education of the basis of the theory which would reveal the many holes, assumptions, and lack of real evidence. That's what's really sad. When someone tells you your crazy for believing in Creation, ask them why they believe in Evolution. Ask them if they've seen the billions of fossils of millions upon millions of intermediate species that are necessary for the current set of flora and fauna we have today. Ask them if they knew that many of the skull fossils of our supposed ancestor's that scientists held in high regard as irreputable proof were later exposed as frauds? Or that the ones that are still claimed to be valid are in fact fragmentary and incomplete.



On the surface, objectively, Evolution and Creation are both belief systems produced by humans. We happen to believe with faith that God exists and that he personally gave us the Bible, and with it a system of beliefs, through his prophets either under inspiration or through direct communication.



I don't want to digress, but Evolution demands much more evidence than is presently available (or ever will be) for it to be 'proven'. The evidence of a creator is all around us. Everything we see is in harmony with his word and our belief that the universe and we ourselves were designed by an intelligence.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

i was waiting for you to post something dean :) and you're totally right, because for evolution to be true, there would be hundreds of millions of "intermediate" species, and yet, there is no fossil record to back that up.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

You know what I wonder about all the time? If we evolved from monkeys and apes- why are their still monkeys and apes? Wouldn't they all be extinct by now because they couldn't survive?

Seriously though, another point I always like is how Darwin says every body part is developed for a reason...so why do we have such big brains, when we only use a small part? There was no need for us to have such a large brain, only using a small capacity...

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

very good point

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nine9starOG 2001

ha ha omg that has always been my arguement lol - great minds think alike ;)

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Plus we have a little thing in our body that digests bones. Supposedly in my biology class, my teahcer was like, that part of the body used to be larger when we were cave men, but now we dont use it, it will eventually evolve and disappear. Yet, I informed him that if everything evolves and disappears, does that mean our toes would disappear, or our pinky's? He didnt know the answer and was like lets move on to the next topic. I eventually gave him the Evolution - Creation book and he thanked me. Dont know if he read it, but its just really bizarre how people think....

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

i think he was referring to the appendix right? that's what they say, but maybe at one point it did serve a purpose, of course i mean besides the purpose it serves now by becoming inflamed and attempting to self destruct the human body. my my my... evolution works in mysterious ways

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Yeah, appendix thats it, but it aint about evolution...

magnum magnumOG 2001

Are you gonna have a term paper on say computer science? :) I need one for this semester and would appreciate it if you do one and post it for me to "Review".

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

i dont know yet, i dont think i have any "term papers" most likely papers of comparable length to this one

deanh77 deanh77Founder

there's also this issue of "irreducible complexity" which is really interesting when debating evolution. Think of a mouse-trap. it performas a well-defined action and needs a certain arrangement of several components. According to evolution, things evolve due to survival advantages over previous versions. but does a block of wood with a piece of cheese hold any advantage over just a block of wood? and then a block of wood with a piece of cheese and a spring over a block of wood with cheese? and then a block of wood with a piece of cheese and a spring and a swing-arm?

and those are just things. you also need correct placement and a desired action.



and this is just a simple machine. your body is composed of millions of complex machines, whose many supposed intermediate versions would pose no evolutionary advantage.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

dean, i love the way you write! i can't wait till you read my next essay, which looks like it's shaping up to be on outer space and extra terrestrial life. The first paper i have to read is by carl sagan... i'll see if i can find links.

deanh77 deanh77Founder

thank you matt. you're hot.

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001

haha is there a new romance blooming?? hahaha

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

well... ya know *blush*

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nine9starOG 2001

omg do i need to buy a hat???? - oh this is so great, we were just saying the other day what a great couple you two would make - omg im so happy :-D

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Buy a hat, whats gonna happen, its gonna rain??

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nine9starOG 2001

u div - the wedding!

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

You need a hat for a wedding? Who buys a hat for a wedding!

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nine9starOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

gee whizz boy its a blinkin saying!

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 nine9star

so is gee whizz boy and blinkin, but I get those, who ever said I have to buy a hat, referring to a wedding??

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nine9starOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

never mind, i know ur quite simple, we dont expect you to understand everything

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 nine9star

OH! Just because your British you think your better than me dont you?

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nine9starOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

I dont think - i know! (Jahannaism)

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 nine9star

HAHAHAHA Jahannaism...it sounds like some kind of reasoning... (eg. Well according to Jahannaism...) HAHAHA

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

lol, i've actually never heard that either. hmph is that for real?

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder tesoro

i think there is a blooming relationship with nine and gfs... wink wink nudge nudge... say no more say no more... ehhhhhh?

magnum magnumOG 2001 rocksupastar

what will jahanna do!

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 magnum

okay, first...NOT FUNNY! NEVER associate me and JERKomo together! have a lovely day! :)

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 rocksupastar

Yeah, you should have checked out her response to my Love Match Ad! But to let everyone know, Im still waiting for Jahanna "il mio tesoro" to click on the "Date GFS" button...

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

second, im not "il tuo tesoro" thanks, and waht are you talking about my response? i did not respond!

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder tesoro

ouch... dude, she just said ur mother... hahahahahha

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 rocksupastar

dude GFS I think you got shot down...I'd pack up and call it a day if I were you...but don't waste your time on Jahanna...there are cooler girls around who live closer to home.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 skaorsk8

Im sorry all but Im hurting now, if I dont respond, its because Im in a long deep depression getting shot down by Jahanna....

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

hahahahah! you thrive on it...im guessing thats why you always come back....to get shot down again! lol

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 tesoro

You know it Jahanna...just like that one time when GFS was playing in Morristown...man, that was the best of times...hahahaha

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

i do not have the intestinal fortitude to reply to that assinine comment.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 tesoro

ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...sorry ! Ms. Big words! I know exactly what you said, nice try!

magnum magnumOG 2001 tesoro

lol that was a nice reply, 5 bonus ezablel points for that one!

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 skaorsk8

ew! you jerk! you totally just dissed me!

magnum magnumOG 2001 tesoro

took u long enough to see that :P

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 skaorsk8

Thanks Dan, at least some one here has a good eye for people!

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

AHH MATT!!!!! NOBODY CARES ABOUT UR DUMB STORIES.. IF I WAS YOUR TEACHER, I WOULD FAIL YA ON THE SPOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

shuttup, yer dumb.

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

no.... You're DUMB!!!!!

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nine9starOG 2001

you're BOTH dumb - but i still love ya :D

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

No you dont.. YOUR ALL DUMB

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nine9starOG 2001

hey i do love these gize and i am smart ha ha

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

hahaha...I like how you clarified that YOUR smart...hahaha

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nine9starOG 2001

smart people just know, obviously you're not smart, because only smart people can tell if other people are smart

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

I am so SMART!!

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nine9starOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

yeh you just keep telling yourself that, we all know you're just in denial

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 nine9star

No..YOUR A DENIAL!

tpham tphamOG 2001

Would you all agree that God did not create every sort of finch in the world.. but darwin was right in that.. God created maybe 10 species of finch .. and the others adapted to their environment and thus changed into hundred of other classes of finches. ..

iwz iwz

well, that's an interesting point. especially considering the Great Flood.

consider this quote from Solcomhouse:

"Estimates of global species diversity have varied from 2 million to 100 million species, with a best estimate of somewhere near 10 million, and only 1.75 million known species of living organisms on earth have been identified."

do you think that Noah was able to collect and store in the ark at least 10 million species of animals (times 2 or times 7 depending on the species, if you follow me)? Its overall dimensions were at least 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high with three interior decks.

hm, actually doing some research on this, i found a page that pretty much makes my point invalid, saying that it was possible to do it, mainly since only about 35,000 animals would have been required to repopulate the earth's animal population. a lot of animals (sealife, insects, etc) could have survived outside the ark. it makes for an interesting read, and although it's on a "christian answers" website not run by the WTB&TS, it's pretty factual. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

thats something i do wonder about, because saying that animals adapt, taken a step furthur, someone could say that is what evolution is. so i dont know what to think about that. i do think that when a species is in an isolated environment, all of the individuals in that environment have similar genetic material. like cows in india are different than cows in the US, and they breed different cows for different purposes like beef or mile (this is not unlike the phenomenon that occurs in small midwestern towns where everyone sort of looks the same...) but a cow is still a cow regardless. i'm not sure what to think on this one.

iwz iwz

evolution ("A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See Synonyms at development. The process of developing. Gradual development.") does occur naturally, it's just not the way that man and animals came into being. eskimos have thicker corneas because of the bright reflection of the sun off the snow. it's an adaptation, and using the strict definition of the word evolution, eskimos are slightly evolved. but they have not changed from a human into something different. they're still humans, and still the same species. it's the same as you can cross two breeds of dogs and get a new type of dog, but you can't cross a cat and a dog and get a catdog. the design of our dna prevents it. you can cross certain species that are different, like a horse and a donkey, and get a mule, but, guess what? they always come out sterile!

modified to include definition of evolution i am using

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nine9starOG 2001

its the case of survival of the fittest, the ones that are strongest and most adept to survivng in that particular habitat - say because of longer legs, or sharper hearing, are the ones who will survive and mate with one another, and consiquently the species will take a slightly different form. Its like with the breeding of dog, they want a dog with floppy ears, the mate two dogs which seem to have particularly floppy ears, and then mate their offspring who have the floppiest ears etc (does that make sense?).

In a number of cases nature does this itself. It is interesting though that what type of a certain species - ie longest legged -may survive best in say a forest, may not survive well on the mountains and hence of each species "strains" will arrise, but they are all inevitably the same species.

deanh77 deanh77Founder

I don't thin its evolution or even "adaptation" or "survival of the fittest" as you all have stated. Its called genetic diversity and taking advantage of that diversity. We are all descendents of Noah. When certain families of his offspring bred with eachother and started forming the different races of people, those people moved (After Babel) to an area that suited them. White people didn't go to Africa, because the sun was too strong, and they genetic makeup couldn't handle it. Black people had an advantage over them. Their skin could withstand the bright sun, and their sickle-cells could handle malaria.

What did not happen, but what evolutionists would have you believe is that people got darker in Africa due to adaptation.

iwz iwz

well, i'm not sure if i stated it or not in my other comments, but, when i refer to evolution, i refer to this definition:

"A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See Synonyms at development. The process of developing. Gradual development."

I believe that is a valid definition for what both you and i are describing.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

so that would make sense... because it never changed into something different... but adaptation to environment, that still sounds strange to me.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

As stated before by 9, its all about Darwinism....

deanh77 deanh77Founder

yeah, I didn't like where this thread was going. but I don't wanna upset anyone.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001

Where is it going Dean??

magnum magnumOG 2001 g.f.s.rocks

to the garbage!

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

everyone brought up some interesting points, and i'm glad we talked about it. this whole thing definitely reaffirmed my belief in creatorship, but it also brought up some questions i had never thought about before, especially what ian said about noah's ark and deans comments on genetic diversity. it's mind boggling really.

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felipeFounder

OK-so most people on the beach are tan. Did they get tan from being on the beach, or were the drawn to the beach because their tans predisposed them to go there?

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001

hahahaha! that actually made me laugh out loud!

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jollycandymanOG 2001

This whole article reminded me of the new Planet of the Apes, and how terrible it was.

iwz iwz

hahaha. well, i actually liked the new planet of the apes. so there!

magnum magnumOG 2001

i like gettin xrays at the dentist then watchin that movie

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