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omegatweeter Feb 11, 2004

ugh, close ones who are disfellowshipped is such a struggle. all you can do is pray that they turn around.

dgiaimo Feb 11, 2004

I don't mean to be callous about this, but I really don't understand that. These people have rejected Jehovah and his standards and there is no place in my heart for such an one. And as for prayi...

skaorsk8 Feb 12, 2004

they haven't taken a stand against jehovah UNLESS they have turned apostate. If they are disfellowshipped, they have sinned and not been repentant- hence, warranting their removal from the congrega...

tinser tinserOG 2002

or if they disassociate themselves by writing a letter to the society.

and, Jehovah is a forgiving god. You remember how many times he forgave the nation of israel, despite their continuous wrong doing. The reason we have the disfellowshipping process isn't to cut people off and declare them wrong doers who have taken a stand against jehovah, because they havent, they've made a mistake...and disfellowshipping an excellent provision from jehovah that allows sinners to come to meetings still, but still be punished so that they'll understand their wrong doing...and most importantly, it's a provision that keeps the congregation clean. Anyway, point is...it's not your place to judge...only Jehovah's

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dgiaimoOG 2003

If they had just made a mistake and were repentant they wouldn't have been disfellowshipped. They would have been reproved. Disfellowshipping is only for those who willfully go against Jehovah's laws.

jay79 jay79OG 2001

That's not entirely true about not being disfellowshipped if they were repentant. I've talked to my dad about it (being that he's been on many committees involving disfellowshipping). Some people just have issues that need to be dealt with that a simple slap on the wrist isn't going to help. And if the person wasn't repentant, why would they be at every meeting in an effort to come back? I don't get it.

tesoro tesoroOG 2001

yea, i agree w/ jen and matt. its not always because they're not repentant. i know someone who had privliges taken away, then were reproved, then finally d/fed. and probly none of the things individually would have been enough to have them dfed but it was like, the last thing they could do. but she came back w/in 6months so that is good.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

This isn't entirely true. Example: I know a person that got extremely depressed after one of his friends was killed in a car accident, he stopped going to meetings, began drinking, and smoking pot. After a while he came to his senses, and went to the elders and confessed what he had done. He was still disfellowshipped, probably because he had done these things over a period of several months. he started going to meetings again, and a few months later, was reinstated. so even if you are repentant, you can be disfellowshipped.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

I'm not trying to say your friend wasn't repentant, or that the elders made a mistake, but if you read pages 145-8 of the OM book it makes it quite clear that only unrepentant wrongdoers are disfellowshipped.

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