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starshiptrooper Feb 12, 2004

try having a d/f kid. so many of the kids she grew up with are d/f too.

skaorsk8 Feb 12, 2004

ok, listen, can you show empathy instead of turning it to you and your family? I'm not hating on you, or beating you up, but when someone's having a rough week, it's not kind to say "you think THAT...

rocksupastar Feb 12, 2004

yea, that is a good point, **DISCLAIMER** I AM NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT YOU STARSHIP** but yea, i think that lauren is going through some hard times, the least all of us can do is try to offer supp...

starshiptrooper Feb 12, 2004

haha i have no starship. i do feel bad. i've been d/f. i know what it does to the family.

forrestina Feb 13, 2004

did you even read dan's comment? he brought up a good point for us all to work on.

starshiptrooper Feb 13, 2004

i felt her pain right away. just b/c i reacted the way i did SHOWS empathy cause i know the pain a d/f loved one or friend causes. excuse me for being human.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

"try having a d/fed kid"

means...."you aren't that bad off. Try having a d/fed kid".

it's ok to admit you came across inappropriately. part of being human. and adult.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

i didnt mean TRY having one.....i meant its hard on a woman who has carried that baby inside herself, vowing to have her serve Jah, then her turning 360 (or is it 180) and becoming pretty much not wanting to come back. THATS why i said u wouldnt understand, and expected ur reply.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

Yeah, it was rough on my mom, she couldn't even go to the meeting the night it was announced. This is the third time one of her kids has been DF'd. I was the first. I think my family is just cursed. :P

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

yeah i didnt either.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

I was there when they announced it for me, and he was there when they announced it for him. That was rough, especially last week cause I don't think ANYONE suspected it. Shoot, I was blown away when I found out.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

rough, isnt it?

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

Yeah, back in '94 right after high school. I was lieing about what was going on for over year. I had a real bad attitude. I didn't come back till after I was married in '99. I went to the assembly that my sister-in-law got baptized at and that triggered me to get my life in gear. I quit smoking that day, one of the hardest things I ever had to do in my life. It was no cake walk. I kept falling into pit after pit.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

glad ur back tho! did u think its harder to first come into the truth, or be reinstatted?

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

I was raised in the truth so I can't really answer that. I was baptized at 12. It's funny though, when I was DF'd I never felt comfortable in the world. Their morals are just all screwed up. I was reinstated on a sunday too, that was interesting.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003 modestjesse

well i dont know u but I'm glad ur back. it gives hope for other young ones.
i found it harder to get reinstated b/c its easy to love God but not to hate wrong. and i wasnt raised by Godly standards even tho my parents did the best they could.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004 starshiptrooper

Thanks, good to be back. Yeah, when I was DF'd I picked up other bad habits that I never had before (drugs, smoking, immorality) so stopping them was very difficult. But once you put your mind to it, with Jehovah's help (because you can't do it alone) things came together.

man... it's so crazy that that can happen being raised in the truth. satan just has so many temptations, i'm sure once u start getting reeled in, ur forget all the stuff u learned. glad you're back buddy, excellent.

beachbum beachbumOG 2002

that has got to be the hardest thing to sit through (for yourself).

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

Yup, because you're sitting there filled with embarrasment and shame.

beachbum beachbumOG 2002

i think dan knows what you meant. what he is telling you is when someone is feeling bad, don't talk about how bad your life is. Empathize and tell them you are sorry they are in so much pain. Try to help them w/ some constructive ways to ease their pain. It's just that you come across as if your problems are so much worse than everyone else's that it's like their feelings are invalid or just an overreaction compared to how things COULD be.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

well then i'm much mizunderstood. ce'st la Vie
and btw i corresponded with Violet and she wasnt bent outta shape.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

i did, to HER. I owe U nothing

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