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starshiptrooper Feb 12, 2004

try having a d/f kid. so many of the kids she grew up with are d/f too.

skaorsk8 Feb 12, 2004

ok, listen, can you show empathy instead of turning it to you and your family? I'm not hating on you, or beating you up, but when someone's having a rough week, it's not kind to say "you think THAT...

rocksupastar Feb 12, 2004

yea, that is a good point, **DISCLAIMER** I AM NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT YOU STARSHIP** but yea, i think that lauren is going through some hard times, the least all of us can do is try to offer supp...

starshiptrooper Feb 12, 2004

haha i have no starship. i do feel bad. i've been d/f. i know what it does to the family.

forrestina Feb 13, 2004

did you even read dan's comment? he brought up a good point for us all to work on.

starshiptrooper Feb 13, 2004

i felt her pain right away. just b/c i reacted the way i did SHOWS empathy cause i know the pain a d/f loved one or friend causes. excuse me for being human.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

did you guys know that sympathy and empathy are actually 2 different things? Points to whoever can explain the diff without consulting dictionary.com

tinser tinserOG 2002

i can...but i dont care enough to

hunkpapap hunkpapapOG 2003

Matt, i know what you mean because i sometimes want to test the knowledge of the ezablers. But as a new yorker i'm miffed by the lack of vocabulary and spelling by a lot of people on here...

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

sympathy is feeling bad for someone for a reason

empathy is actually taking on those feelings, and sharing their pain.

i know, i had the instruction talk on this a couple of weeks ago.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

u got it backwards dude. nice job misleading the congregation.

beachbum beachbumOG 2002

i thought he was close. isn't empathy when you can sympathize b/c you can relate from personal experience to what the person is feeling?

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

ohhh...wrong again mr. kelly...

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

em·pa·thy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mp-th)
n.
Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives. See

sym·pa·thy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smp-th)
n. pl. sym·pa·thies

A relationship or an affinity between people or things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the other.
Mutual understanding or affection arising from this relationship or affinity.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

yeah, that's not really the right way to express it though.

if your cat died, and i tell you "i'm sorry - that really sucks" - that's sympathy. i feel bad for you.

but if your cat died, and i say "maaaan. tell me what it feels like. i want to understand. and then, when i do understand, we can work through it together..." that's empathy.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

And then when you say that I say, man it's just a cat, stop being so ghey. :P (kidding, trying to lighten up the mood)

violetboregaurd violetboregaurdOG 2003

go for it jess... no more negativety guys - it's all good!

YEAH AH EYEAH YEAH I'm going to Hawaii... say it, it'll make you smile.

socalgal socalgalOG 2003

Dans right....sorry funky...wasn't there an article in the WT on this a while back?

violetboregaurd violetboregaurdOG 2003

yeah there was one about three years ago - questions from readers im thinking.

modestjesse modestjesseOG 2004

There was a part on the service meeting I think maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago about empathy.

Ask Perrin, he had the assignment.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Actually, funky is technically right that they originally meant that. However, the words have been used the wrong way so often that they have flipped meanings, and from a purely functional point of view, they no longer mean what they originally did.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002

actually empathy is more so... i've been there.. i truly understand.. and feel it..

sypathy you haven't expereienced it. but feel the pain.

i win. you got serv'd

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

guys... you're all confused. i took Helpdesk Analyst training and they told us: empathize but don't sympathize. you empathize, u say, hey i'm sorry you're having a problem. you sympathize, you take on the emotions of the situation and share them with the person.

socalgal socalgalOG 2003

What Is Empathy?
One dictionary says that empathy is the "identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives." It has also been described as the ability to put oneself in the other fellow's place. So empathy requires first of all that we comprehend the circumstances of someone else and second that we share the feelings that those circumstances provoke in him. Yes, empathy involves our feeling another person's pain in our heart.

go to www.watchtower.org

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder socalgal

wow... now i'm confused. i can't think about this anymore

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 thefunkyfresh

i'm telling you empahty is when you fullly understand the pain... for instance being through the problem already yourself.

and sympathy is understanding it from outside the actual pain.. etc

WHO CARES anyway you say empahty or sympathy and people will think you are right. and not say anything.

very good ty. don't forget your 5 o'clock pill.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

DUDE! you're getting it backwards! read the definition! comprehend it!!

rocksupastar rocksupastarFounder

no see, here it is... dan has empathy for matt cause they are both GHEY!!! all of you shutup!!! the point is that ty is asian, im hot, and ian is an evil dictator!!! We need to channel all this hate and energy at the the person that deserves it... THE MAN!!!! and that man.... is iwz... make him PAY for changing the musings view, and taking away chat, and removin the GAMES section... Do it for GFS Rocks... do it for yourself....

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002

i liked your whole plan, except for the "do it for GFS Rocks" part...

ian, where's the games server already?!?

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002 skaorsk8

I don't know what you're talking about, but I have a game server on my ezabel when I log-in.

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 thatdarngirl

seriously??? you lie!!

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002 skaorsk8

No, the link for it is right between Forums and Events at the top. I haven't clicked on it yet though, should I check it out?

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 thatdarngirl

i don't have it!! how do you have it??

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002 skaorsk8

I don't know. I do not question the higher ezabel beings because then they make my musings box dance! I'm not even gonna use it anyways, I don't like computer games too much.

tinser tinserOG 2002 thatdarngirl

you must be playing a trick, because i don't have it either

iwz iwz tinser

only some people have it

skaorsk8 skaorsk8OG 2002 iwz

it better not be another trick that hates on "musings view" people!!

That would make sense but I have it and I'm a musing view person.

tinser tinserOG 2002 iwz

how come we dont??

We're not uber cool yet...

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