now give it true that MLB was a band with a front singer who had that self infatuation 80's thing going for him. However if you do listen to the album to songs like Crown of thorns, Man of golden words, Gentle groove and a couple of others you can probably hear the grunge roots in them. But I mean I guess you can't contest when it comes to songs like This is Shangrila. However I really can't say any of their stuff sounds like arena rock of the 80's. More like the Led Zepellins and Aerosmiths and perhaps even Lynard Skynard and Jimi Hendrix roots. But I can't see them in the same picture with Poison or Warrant being they weren't a hair band and I don't find the music to be similar at all.