does she have kids?
Yes, but she doesn't work. And I'm sick of the kids excuse anyway - let's take mikeyjoe's mom as an example - two kids, never stopped pioneering. Kids are no excuse.
you know, i don't have kids so sometimes i don't think i can talk, but i agree with you. my sister in law has 2 kids and she is always substituting for people w/o kids. see, kids aren't an excuse.
um sometimes they are. timeing is everything. my mom had 5 BRATTY girls, pioneered, my daddy did the same, worked FULL TIME plus overtime and still pioneered....but that was a different time than now. esp since the time is speeding up as we're closer to the end.
and if i get tired out, me being single...i can imagine someone with kids...whining all the time, having to scold them to settle down, get ready, eat, etc. PLUS being around 13 nieces and nephews....and seeing my sisters...it takes a lot of time and energy. so yeah it can be used as an excuse...not an abused excuse but still and excuse.
agreed. everyone's situation is different.
Hahaha - I think it's really abused in my hall. I remember my stepmother being tired out when she'd take my little brothers to the hall alone when they were little, but I mean, what's the alternative? Are you going to not involve your kids in service? Sell them to the circus? It's one thing to tell your friends you're a little worn out, it's another to say you can't do something in the hall because of your kids, ya know?
we as childless people DO NOT know the feeling, we can only understand and see it from the others point. thats all i can say. all i know is ones w/families in the cong def do their best to attend, kids and all...and the important thing, they're there. doesnt matter what they do, how many talks they give, how many hours in field service, they're doing all that they can, tired & all.
think about it, i know some sisters & brothers that work FULL time AND pioneer, am i going to look at you and say "why dont you pioneer....so and so's doing it and with greater responsibilities than you" that would not be loving nor compassionate of me to say as i dont know your situation. just like the illustration of the talents...each was provided with what they were able to use.
I understand that, and I agree, everyone has different limitations. I just don't understand how someone can say, with a clear conscience, that they can't do something in the hall because of their kids. Especially because all but like 2 of the families in my hall said they were desperately trying to have kids before they actually got pregnant. My point is, you've got the kids, make it work. I understand parents wanting to time out of service early, or showing up to the meeting late occasionally, but if you're saying you can't write a 5 minute talk because you're kids are too much, then you've got a serious problem. And I'm sick of these things being passed off to me because I don't have kids. I feel like I want to throw an "I don't have a baby shower".
are there no other sisters in your hall that can substitute?
I've heard maybe 2 other sisters give sub talks.
hahaha i know hun! you're being used greatly in the congregation...its a privilege that you're able to do it...take it as so. the day is coming that we wont have that freedom to do all we can in the ministry...so enjoy what you have.
OH and i feel like carrie "why must i be buying all the presents for baby showers, wedding showers anniversaries....when is someone going to spend money on me for being single" LOL
Totally! I know we're fortunate to be used so much, but I'm just sick of the way our hall is so kid-centric. People ask me when we're having kids now and I just glare in disgust.
BTW - If you registered at Manolo Blahnik, I'd totally buy you a pair of shoes! :)
HAHAHAHA how RAD would that be to have a party for being single..."yes i'm registered at manolo blhanik, gucci, jimmy choo"
Being a single father of two brats..hehe..I would say not doing a talk because of your kids is not a good excuse. I've left my kids sitting by themselves in order to give a talk. Thankfully I trained them well enough to sit still. Well they know they'd get beat otherwise. LOL! So if there are 2 parents and that excuse is used, those parents need to re-evaluate their thinking.
actually yeah, your absolutely right. sometimes it can be an excuse, just don't abuse it. i really need to start explaining myself more. sorry my laziness to type out something makes me sound weird.
Yeah sorry guys, i find myself doing that more and more. I really need to stop being lazy and type everything. I skip things thinking, keep it short no one wants to read a book, so i leave out things and then when i re-read them i leave out the important things and i end up sounding like a jerk. so sorry about that.
yarr
And just because one person can juggle kids, pioneering, and being the fishing champion of the world..
doesn't mean everyone else can too..
it's their own mental capacity for what they can and can't handle -
even to the point that they may be mentally inhibiting themselves.
Lots of things can go on in peoples lives that can hinder.
I remember for 5 weeks straight.. when I was the school assistant.. I had to either give a #2 or #4 because of last minute cancellations. That was rough... People were sick and tired of seeing me.
oh and im' not attacking you mandie or anyone for that matter. I just hit replied to the bottom message.
however i'm going to attack you now..
HIYA!
PUNCH!
ROAR!!! I'M SO MAD!! no not really, didn't take any offense. Ha. But thanks.
i will bite you..
i will bite you right in the calf muscle.
i will... i seriously will.
BRING IT!! ( i wanted to say a line from Joe Dirt, but thought it might be inappropriate for some..haha)
What.. is this queer.. huh
is this queer..
check one two..
BRING IT...
HOMe is where you make it...
you like to see homos naked?
dude, that's rough! I give you a lot of credit! And I highly doubt anyone got sick of seeing you up there, because I'd imagine that you do an amazing job on your talks. You seem very capable to me.
To the macking forum please. :P
dang it, i knew someone would say that.
ok someone please explain this to me. i'm not ezabel literate or something. so you can reply to musing, but not to much because if you reply to much you need to make it a forum. well how many replies do you need to make it a forum and oh my goodness i've just gone cross eyed.
no i sucked.
true story...
after a last last minute..
like i really wasn't that prepared to subsitute because i had called the brother an hour before the meeting..
and he said " I"LL BE THERE YAYYYAYA LETS ROCK WOO HOO"
i was all " ok buddy see you there and stay off the drugs"
anyway.. he didn't SHOW!
so i through together a lame beginning.. read bible reading.. and then even gave a lamer ending...
and the school overseer gets up and says something to the fact of " It's great to see people step up and fill in for those who can't make it.. but sometimes.. if you really feel that you weren't that prepared.. YOU CAN SAY NO and not give the talk... we can always figure something else out. "
Not quoted ver batim because it was awhile ago. hahaha but i was all " OH SNAP ... I'm saying NO next time "
OMG hahaha he really said that? lol
I love Mike and Funky's experience of funky sitting in the audience while Mike was on stage giving a talk, and Funky coughed every minute so mike could time himself. And the brothers totally knew. Priceless!
But i'll never forget that.
Because it IS ok to say NO sometimes... sometimes you can't.. thats that.
Just say NO to..
drugs..
talks..
ugly chicks..
dogs in sweaters... ( i mean seriously...they have HAIR all over their body!! thats why dogs can't SEW.. because they weren't meant to sew their own sweaters.. so dont' put a dog in a sweater... it's not that HARD to NOT do. sheesh)
beets... ( who likes beets? if you say yes.. you are one weird person. like really weird. because beets are so bitter... Oompa Loompas with all their magical orangeness could not make a SWEET BEET ... thats how the factory shut down.. they tried to make a Sweet Beet.. and they couldn't.. so wonka killed all the oompa loompas. True story)
that was rude of him to say that on stage. he should have told you in private.
and dogs in sweaters, its just so wrong, sooo completely wrong!!!
lolpwnt