I hope none of you kidless people take offense, but I think a lot of you are in lala land. Having kids opens your eyes a bit wider to what is going on in this world. While I respect anyones decis...
i don't think it's the kidless part that there are more DF-ings...it's the singleness part.
My point is, it makes people stronger to have children. Selfishness goes out the door. That is, if Jehovah is put first.
There's plenty of single, selfless pioneers and elders who don't want kids to be able to do more in Jehovah's service. Some want to have kids and choose not to. You're saying people without kids ...
Ok and you are talking about an exceptional few. Sorry, but a lot of people's reasons for not having kids have nothing to do with service to Jehovah.
why do you need a reason at all? it's not like we are required to have children and have to come up with a good reason not to. Please.
If you ever have kids you will then understand. Since I am in a minority here on this site, I expect to hear people think otherwise.
Ok. As long as you admit you're wrong.
What am I wrong about? I see a lot of young single people and married couples that really don't know what true adversity is. Yeah, they go to work, they get to their meetings, go out in service, take care of a home. That can be hard. Throw a kid in the mix and a lot of them would be like chickens with their heads cut off. Its this generation. All I'm saying is that if you are successful rearing kids in the truth, it makes you a stronger person and more appreciative of the truth than if you had not had kids. That's not to say you wouldn't still appreciate the truth, it is just magnified by raising people who rely on you 100%. And if you don't have children, then you don't know what I mean. And I'm not saying you need to have a kid to survive this system. I'm just saying having kids fortifies your resolve further. I have two people I get to have bible studies with. How encouraging is that?
Dude, come on. Kids are cool and do take a lot of work. But just because the majority of people on this site don't have kids at this point, doesn't mean that they've faced less adversity then you. You have no idea what goes on in other people's lives and what makes their faith strong. You only know what it's like to be in your life, having kids when you did, and nothing else. So you can't act like you have the perspective of NOT having kids and growing spiritually as a single person.
Let's just agree to disagree.
so you're saying that having kids is a good strategy for JW's to make them "stronger in the truth." if a kid is going to make your life harder and miserable why have them?
Basically I'm telling the people who laugh at the notion of having kids, that kids build even more strength in a person than what they already had. I can certainly understand people shying away from having kids. This system sucks. People who are miserable having kids are weird.
Just give it up, man. NO ONE AGREES WITH YOU.
And you are the snottiest person on this site. And I'm also talking to people with NO kids. SpecialK would agree with me.
See fivezero's comment above.
Didn't mean to call you snotty, but it seems like you lash out a bit too much with me. I don't know if you are kidding or not.
And you are the snottiest person on this site. And I'm also talking to people with NO kids. SpecialK would agree with me.
that's not the greatest example of how having kids made someone stronger to bring up right now
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Oh, I guess something happened I don't know about. Ok, stupid me.
haha this doesn't make any sense because the kid-less could easily say "well if you didn't have any kids you would understand"
just because you have more crap to deal with doesn't mean you are more in touch with "reality"
I have plenty of crap to deal with, people/things to take care of, bills to pay etc. etc. etc. so how is that not reality? haha please enlighten me