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fivezero Dec 3, 2003

Aint It Cool News has posted several great reviews of ROTK. read 'em here www.aintitcoolnews.com

thatdarngirl Dec 3, 2003

Oh wow..that last part about sam and getting married as calmed all my fears. My little sister said she heard there was no "raising of the shire" which would just totally ruin EVERYTHING but I have ...

iwz Dec 3, 2003

there's no scouring of the shire at all, it was never even filmed. chances are that it won't even be in the extended edition. pj didn't "like that part of the book". altho, saruman being remove...

dgiaimo Dec 3, 2003

Sigh. So I guess he's removed all trace of the underlying theme of the books, huh.

iwz Dec 4, 2003

which the good vs evil thing? or the tale of hobbits? either way, i think i'll be happy with pj's conclusion to the films. the writing has been excellent (if you can look at it purely from the s...

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dgiaimoOG 2003

There is a major undercurrent in the books that is essentially Tolkein's lament over what happened to Europe, and the English countryside in particular during the two world wars of the last century. The reason the scouring of the Shire is so important is that how the hobbits felt when they returned to the Shire and saw it so changed represents how Tolkein felt after he came back from fighting World War 1 and found his hometown, and many other towns in the English countryside overtaken by industrializing forces. In that chapter he's lamenting the loss of the "simple" agricultural life that people used to live with the new industrial life that was forced upon England by the war fever that swept Europe.

I think that PJ is doing a wonderful job of telling a great good vs. evil story, but he's taking out a lot of the points that make the Lord of the Rings great literature as opposed to just a good story.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Actually, if you read the intro that I have in my books (they're really old, I'm not sure if it's in all additions) he says he wasn't talking about Europe and England at all and it was not his comment on how he felt about things going on around him.

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dgiaimoOG 2003

Maybe he didn't do it consciously, but that doesn't mean it's not there, and it doesn't mean the books were not greatly affected by his experiences with war.

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

But he had a lot of the books or ideas of middle earth drafted out on paper or in his head for a really long time.

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

too bad its so demonic~!

thatdarngirl thatdarngirlOG 2002

Now..the last time you complained about the triology you said it was violent..when did you make this sudden switch?

starshiptrooper starshiptrooperOG 2003

ok, its violent AND demonic.

lol u nut, i love these movies!!!! its just too bad they're violent and demonic! hehe!

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder

maybe i'm glad i never read the books

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