Main-Stream Bands
by So, not like ANYONE cares...but on Friday, me Tina and Liz got to meet Good Charlotte...because we were ULTIMATLY gay and went to MTV studios...see, it was pretty cool getting to see em....slapping hands w/ em...but the whole situation just got me REALLY upset! cuz i remember GC back in the day when they were SO not big at all....and you could go and get tickets for their show...the day of! last time i tried to get tickets...i called like THREE weeks ahead of time...and they were sold out...ugh...so upsetting...anyways...Has any of you's guys favorite bands gone "main-stream"? And you HATE it?
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NEW FOUND GLORY!!! its killing me that they are soo pop now...
I'm sorry, i heard about the bad news today....
yea i remember when the back street boys.. were called " ty phams boys " and they used to sing to me in my room and we'd dance and play in the sand box together and stuff. now... it's like crazy. i can't even give them a slap on the butt and say " good luck partna " , without cameras going off.
i liked the jay karas band until they sold out and started playing large venues, like the Nassau Coliseum
when we were waiting at the cd signing....i was talking to this one girl...who was totally punked out...which explains why she was so nice(yo, thats so true, the "scariest" looking people are the nicest) anyways...yea, i said if any of my fav bands ever play an arena show....they're soooo gone. i woudnt go to it....
I know, a similar thing happened to the Jake harris band. They changed their name to the Jay Karras band and sold out....
Incubus selling-out was pretty upsetting, they got so gay.
Are we losers if our favorite bands were already mainstream?
yes
hahhhha, okay, so i'm just semi-joking...what is your favorite main-stream band?
Well the irony is that all my favorite mainstream bands have gone the other way. I love third eye blind and tonic, but they've gone downhill. And the only band i like that hasn't gone mainstream is Splender.
you know i've always been a huge wallflowers fan but they seem to be getting less popular as times goes on. this makes me sad.
i havent heard anything about the wallflowers for like 4 years
they've had 2 albums since ....both are good but you have to be a true fan to appreciate the newest one.
interesting comment
i say that because it isn't all "Catchy" and "pop-music"...it's somewhat dark (which i've always liked about them) but it has some excellent lyrics and jakob dylan's voice is always amazing. check out "breach"- their album from about 2 years ago.
i'm not sure whats worse....hearing abotu a band when they're already big..then them going downhill....or liking a band before they're big, and watching them get huge.
wallflowers are really good---must be in the genes. ps-did you see jakob in the window at GAP?
don't u hate it when someone puts one new comment in the middle of the entire journal...then u have to scroll around looking for it...no? nevermind then.
Yeah..I really hate that.
oh, okay, those ARE mainsteram, but at least, they are not like Dave Matthews Band mainstream...ugh ugh ughhhhhhhhhh, i cant explain my hate for them...but yea, 3EB...i saw them a few years ago...i still love them...first s/t album is better than Blue though.
I saw them play with the goo goo dolls last year and they played new songs. THey were good. I can't wait for the new album....
OH FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT BAND,, I SO VERY MUCH DISLIKE DAVE MATHEWS ITS UNBELEIVABLE!!!
i intensely dislike them too! i mean, come on, satellite and crash are the SAME SONG PEOPLE!!!!!!!
yeah one of these days me and dave are going to throw it down....
seriously we need to form a club, the DMB Haters!!! I dont ever want to hear them on the radio again!
i'll be co-vice-president.
yeah Jahanna, I don't see the big deal with the Dave Matthews Band... ALL their songs sound EXACTLY the same. It's a genre of music I never cared for... I can't even define it!
I would have to say that my all time favorite band is PENNYWISE,, not only are they a phenominal punk band but they also havent,how you say SOLD OUT, main stream as they MAY be, and I use MAY as in sorta kinda, they still totally rock!, & Metallica rocked up till about maybe 5 er 6 years ago!
pennywise ROCKS this hizzzouse!
I wasn't allowed to listen to Metallica. I wasn't allowed to listen to Z100 for a little while there. Pearl Jam was like, the worst sin I could have committed, according to my parents, who thought i was like, deranged and demonized for listening to it. Did I mention I wasn't allowed to DRIVE anywhere even tho I had my license for like, a year. And then... OF COURSE.. my younger bro went to a Deftones concert (with me) at age 13. And my younger sis went to Spain for 3 weeks at age 16. GO FIGURE. (I take it back, i DO NOT understand my parents)
ha ha
I also got in trouble .. i mean.. YELLED AT.. for drinking a beer. A BEER...as in.. one. I was 22 at the time.
HA HA,, I remember that, not that I was there, but I remember you tellin me
Yeah. Haha. And it makes me so mad when kids complain about things like "oh i have a computer with a cable modem in my room but i can only use it 10 hours a day! boo hoo!" I didn't even have a computer till i was like,... 18.. GEESH!!
yeah seriuosly
hahahaha so much anger.
so young, so angry. Damn that rap music.....
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA! youre just like an encyclopedia of movie lines
Yeah i dont' know why i think about that stuff. Brings me right back to angryville. And then I try to leave ASAP.
ha that sounds like something my older sister would say, but what she doesn't realize is that my parents let her do more than they let us do.
ok. I just figured out who "whoknows" is. give me a break, I've been away for a week. whassup.
I dont know what the guys from THE PEARL JAM do with their cheese okay? You gotta treat it like you would a loaded gun.
yeah, i know what you mean. the oldest one always gets the worst of it.
its b/c you are the FIRST CHILD its a horrible syndrome, I know!!!!!!
i dont really like pennywise anymore... thats just me
I LOVE pennywise! they are one of the best punk bands ever! and i don't hear them much on the radio-they only ever had a song or two on mainstream radio- so i wouldn't say they really sold out.
is anyone else here glad that limp bizkit took the downward spiral?
Im not, I liked him
Elated. I kinda hated the little girly brat.
sometimes
very happy, down with that crap also
yeah, limp sucks.
Who Digs Crazytown?
i just like that song butterfly
for obvious reasons
I can dig there first 7 er so songs on that album then im just like oh goodness your stupid, cause the words just get so stupid after the first 7 songs! There new album, is totally i mean TOTALLY different
The Donnas. I mean, I met those girls last year when I saw them in Philly and they were totally cool but now they're on SNL and TRL?
They were the girl band in drive me crazy right?
Yeah that's them.
they didn't sell out---they are finally getting respect that they merit along with a record deal.
No they definetly sold out, just maybe not as bad as some other bands. They were on Lookout Records which is a very well known label and well respected for having bands like Operation Ivy on it. They wanted a bigger label and more money. All of the sudden they're on TRL? And they've definetly been changing their image just a little..the one definetly was told to lose a lot of weight. You can be big and well respected without being on MTV.
fat joe was on mtv and he is FAT, but i saw that 'spankin new bands crap' on mtv, all those bands have been around for a long time, just cause mtv teeny boppers found them doesnt mean they just formed like 3 days ago... Why cant mtv just keep the crap they already destroyed instead of lookin for more bands to tarnish :/
yea, i know...that got me annoyed too...i dont know a ton about all of the bands...but i definatly know Good Charlotte, NFG, and The Used have all been around for a LONG while...yea right...spankin new bands...such crap!
Operation Ivy was AWESOME...SOUND SYSTEM!! (And..."These Boots are Made for walkin!")
These Boots are Made for Walking!!!!!! I LOVE that!
i thought that was sinatra
so what they want more money-that's what they do for a living and they want to get paid-there's nothing wrong with that. and if you listen to their old stuff versus their new stuff it's not THAT much different.
Yet. They can't change things over night because then their fans will know and just up and leave. Making money and being a sell out don't have to go hand in hand. Weezer hasn't sold out yet and they make tons of money just doing what they love- making music. Sure, they play to the public a little but in the end they're doing what they want not what someone else tells them to do (example: putting the music that they want on their new CD on their site for fans to listen to and comment on before it goes on the CD) The Donnas are just letting a new bigger record company lead them around and tell them what to do. It's really cool that they're getting recognized and all but they're taking the easy way out.
interesting article i read about weezer
I read that once but I don't remember where..thanks for the link though!
no prob i read it while i was waiting for a girlfriend to try on some pants at hollister
hm, my biggest reason for thinking a band has "sold out" is when they start playing HUGE venues...like arenas and crap....once they cross that line...sell-out...they can still make a ton of money touring playing smaller shows....like asbury park..thats a good size....but thats as big as it should get, i think.
hmmm so the beatles were sell outs?
well, if you're going by my definition of a sell-out....yup..guess so. i'm not saying i dont LIKE all that music...i still like alota cheezy sell-out pop crap....i'm just saying those kinda bands/singers wouldnt be my favorites.
well that may be true of some groups, but who are we to judge. i guess that's why it's called an opinion though. what can also happen: if a group makes truly good music they are bound to have more people want to see them perform so they may start playing larger venues.
oh you're the coolest person i know. you're saying that if they play an arena to 50,000 people in one night they are selling out. but if in the same area they played a concert at a venue that fits 100 people, 500 times...at 5 concerts a day for 100 days. then they aren't selling out ??? even though they are playing to the same amount of people. i dont know about you.. but if i had a chance to get 100 days of work put into 1 i think i would do it. bite me.
first of all, stop dreaming, i'm never gonna bite you. second...100 people is SUPER small...thats like cafe small...i'm not talking about quite that small...but i think if a band is truely in it "for the music" which okay, duh, most of em ARE in it for the money...but playing smaller shows are SO much more fun for the band and for the fans...like crazily alot more...i mean i can say that based on me...the fan..haha...and just articles i've read and stuff..but at smaller shows there is so much more interaction w/ fans, and ur actually all up close...its awesome! huge shows suck.
yea but as an artist , standing in front of 50,000 people.. all singing along and moving along ... is a lot better than 200 people .
you dream not of playing to 200 people . you want a huge following. you want all that you can appreciate your music. i know this because as a kazoo player i'm tired of just my family being the audience. i want 50,000 people blowing the lips with me. bllooo bblooo blooo bee beee beee baahhh
hahahahahhahahaha.....sicko.
a true sell out is a person, group, or thing... who one day has spikey hair and plays crazy rock and then the next day after talking to the record executive they have blonde hair with red streaks and sing pop , all in the name of a 2 million dollar record contract. changing your image, thought, and sound in the name of money is a true sell out. unless they were in it from the start to make money then hey go do what you want. but if you're sitting in your basement and you write this song saying to yourself " oh wow i love these lyrics i'm so passionate about it " and then the next day the record executive says.. " here's 4 million change this word to this , change the tempo, change the chorus " and you say " sure " .you my friend. are selling out.
i'm getting the impression that you like to argue....alot....tisk tisk....hahahha....anddddddddddddd i'm done! my opinion...always my opinion....never changing that opinion...til i think i should revamp my opinion. how many times do you think i can say opinion in this comment?
i win. thats all i care about.
because i let you.
and you let me... because you had no choice.
jealously rears its ugly head. jealously thy name is Ty.
true. i do want to be like you... for me to poop on.
thai is right
as much as it sickens me, i agree (in principle) with ty. i don't have a problem with a group that tours and plays larger arenas. to get to see all their fans in one year, they have to play one or two days in a larger arena (although i prefer the 15,000-seat arenas). otherwise, you'd have to wait forever while they played two weeks in each city before coming to your area... my2c
I agree w/ you jahanna. it's like once they get big they don't bother with the smaller fun venues anymore b/c it's less money and exposure. a large arena is impersonal but small places like the saint, they can actually talk to and meet people and stuff. Smaller shows are much more fun.
Finally! a reasonable person! haha thanks Janine! :-D
yea maybe you can spell her name right !
That IS the right way to spell my name!
no it's not, relax.
haha does anyone think that ty is NOT relaxed and therefore has to tell everyone else to relax...kinda like the rafter in your own eye type thing.
whoa there mother of all that is just wrong and incorrect. you relax !
hahaha relax dude... relax ;) im love jokes i got jokes jokes got me
Id have to disagree, thai is a pritty relaxed guy
amen sister. i love you. too relaxed about things maybe is my problem. like if one of my feet were to fall off i'd say " sweeeeeet. i only have to wear one shoe"
thanks, i love you to, I duno about to relaxed, but definatly relaxed enough
yea but think... one shoe.. comes only one sock. man.. i'd love to only wear one sock everyday for the rest of my life. it's like peanut butter
but then think of how much your modeling career would be over, how you could never walk the cat walk youd have to hop the cat walk, how incredibly hard it would be to ride bikes, how you could never wear those red heals and dress again! Youd be the one legged prostitute
you draw a good point. but then i'll be able to do what this world has so much needed since adam and eve sinned......... A ONE FOOT WHEEL CHAIR BOUND MODEL. Why walk the cat walk , when i can roll the cat walk.
i can join special olympics, tell my sad story to companies after i win the gold medal and they'd make special motorcycles for one footed people just like me. and i gave up prostitution. thats so 5 years ago.
ok ok
hahahha, you are so maniacally annoying.
lots of people are....but YOURE NOT! hahahaha :-D
yes, there is only a select few...me and you...we're in that small number...except...really not at all...only to eachother...wahtever, its all the same.
eggsactly thats just b/c you and i are so kool! hahahaha
hahhaa, right on. :-D
sugar ray?
hey does anyone know "coheed & cambria" i like their style and stuff i just cant UNDERSTAND AT ALLLLLLLL what in the world theyre talking about! i got their cd this past saturday and i really like it, im just really confused
ya I like coheed and cambria also, 89.5, promotes them like crazy, evertime i turn it on, i hear them talkin about em
so what are they singing about? do you know? is it about video games? so confusing!
haha, i duno ,, i have to listen to it again, i never really payed attention to the words
haha no, the singer writes books about these two characters, "coheed" and "cambria" and the songs are basically a story about them
oh! see, that actually makes some sense... are you going to see them on the 31st? i was wondering whos goin to that show @ birch hill its only $10
i'm so jealous we dont get pirate radio in LI...as soon as I drive west, i start tryin to see when it's gonna come in...i love it! and they're so good with requests and stuff...ahh well.
I'm glad all you long-islanders, northnorth jerseyites, south jerseyites don't get WSOU. otherwise there'd be too much comp. for the contests for tickets to shows I never go to that I win all the time.
they dont ogt a limit how many times u can win a year, tsk tsk takin advantage of the system!
nevermind.......
nsync was amazing. then they had to go and sing.
hey they act AND sing didnt' you see my big fat greek wedding
I say you start your own group 'Ty and the Phambots'....
well my kazoo band seemed to have been making progress. but one of them came up with a bad case of carpal tunnel syndrome. so he couldn't hold the kazoo. so we lost like 4 weeks of practice.
Is that similar to a guy breaking his arm and being out of commission?
welll... what kind of commission is he out of ? HAHAH
youre soooo gross! that was one of the most nasty things ever!
what? i dont get it.
Remind me later to tell you a funny cast story ty.
oh i willl...i willll
yeah...blue oyster cult just isn't the same anymore
i just listened to a web cast by vaco (virgina coalition)...very kewl music...kind of a blues travelers meets bare naked ladies mix. waitin' for the cd to come in the mail...
everybody just thinks they are amazing music critics and thinks they are behind the scenes of everything. who cares. whatever. in the end they make music. you listen to it. you enjoy it. you hate it. whatever. you hate it, dont listen to it. you like it, listen to it while dancing with a celery stick in your mouth. personally i have more things to worry about than whether a band "sold out" or not, like why chickens can't fly. doesn't make me a better man or worse of a man for knowing or caring whether a band sold out. just as long as they do their job and i like what i hear. lets move on. we should all focus on bigger things like world peace. come over to my house and give me a hug (only if you're a hot chick).
i'm personally more concerned about why emus cannot fly, as opposed to chickens. like, there are 80 million chickens in the world, but only like 2 emus (and both are in thai's basement). and emu is low-fat.
yea i mean, i do care about the emus and would love to see one fly with that long neck and large robust round body. it'd be a sight for sore eyes for sure. but, think about the chicken :
" umm i'm gonna make you a bird, and you're gonna have wings "
" whoa i will be able to fly"
" whoa whoa dont get too excited, your wings wont work because i'm gonna make you fat"
" what noooooo"
" yea but i'll make you real tastey and make you taste like everything and you'll especially taste really good fried "
" sweeeeettttttt!"
yeah but imagine this-
colonel sanders: god, i wish i knew what do to with my life....if only there was a product that I could exploit by taking something healthy, coating it with batter, and catering the food to poor people....hmm...oh wait...an emu!
of for all you band lovers, critics and all that.. mtv is doing a voice 22 thing where you get to voice your opinion and they tape you and stuff. i just got sent the email. it's exclusive. hahah
oh thats pretty kool! hey did you ever talk to that producer???? haha you were supposed to send him my picture and tims hahahahaha
This would have made a really good news item...
good job on trying to steal this idea........
amen on this one...
And I was prompted to finally post it cause i was tired of seeing a certain item on the war on Iraq...
sounds like jealously to me ;)
Actually, no... I've been thinking about it for some time...
band from society
they're the real definition of sell out
this is a BIG journal
Coldplay's new album is reallymainstream. Its too overproduced for me
congrats on getting 2nd on the all time list!
yippe!! i didnt even realizse that! my life is NOW totally complete!
hmmm...YOU'RE not too hard to please... ;)
hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahaha
stop being me.
git out of my brain you mongrolific wariar
I LOVE DRU HILL...yea, this is him.....yea, i know......
LIARRRRRRRRRR
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no no no, it was "you know who i loved back in the day?" who? "dru hill!" this is whos on the radio right now..."yea... umm i know" hahahahhahahahhahahaa
made ya look dirty crook stole yer mothers pocket book
all my pride is all i have.
pride is what you had baby girl, not what you HAVE! hahahhaa
lol such a good song... ....is me and my boyfriend....
thats a different song sparky! thats jay-z and beyonce...i like that song much better than the llcoolj and j-lo song. yes? no? maybe so?
MUHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA