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when you had your first girlfriend/boyfriend?
i'm almost 21 and ive never dated anyone. yes, im a loser, hah hah.
i've just never met anyone i wanted to marry. so i wouldn't date them.
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so i've been macking it lately, for the sole purpose of being able to talk about it in the macking forums to get this thing going again
do tell
don't make excuses, son. have no shame in your game.
Yes, JP I have been monitoring your mackness... and Im quite impressed...
oh thank you...i hope you have been documenting it with photographic evidence
you are not a mack until you've had two girls having a fist fight over you. a true bareknuckle street fight-- just to be your girl. THEN you'll be a mack, lol.
are you saying this from experience?
this is a total joke. i've never had girls physically fight over me.
this sentence made me blort
blort meaning a combination of chortle, laugh, giggle, and snort
nah the real fun is when they don't fight but are in the same room. The air is so much thicker like after a rainstorm. And they are thinking about how they'll get close enough to the other girl in order to be able to push them in front of a bus. Those looks are priceless...
Remember the espy episode when Wendy told the teacher not to steal her man?
years ago, brett hollaway had a party and it was prime time for an experiment. i had two ex girlfriends and a future one in a circle chatting and for a while they totally didn't know each others identities. my buddy comes over with his eyes all wide "dude, don't go over there!!!!"
yes, i did field a number of intense phone calls that night.
personal holloway
six month linen
but's safe to say we are alone
suburban suicide
watching night come amber
it's all so temporary
move a little way move a little way now move a little way move a little way now
bleed life breathe life
could be a better plan paracetamol could be a better plan could be a better plan
dude, i love that album. razorblade suitcase. totally maxed out their potential though.
i'm not sure if this was at the same Brett Holloway party..but me and Austin were both at one of his parties and didn't know eachother...then we met for the first time like a month after that. awwwwwwwwww. hahaha
ha, band from society played at a brett holoway party a long time ago.
Same party! This is years ago.
HAHA! awesome. i remember another band played there too. i don't remember who it was though.
It could have been 75 Summers...
they all wore matching track suits!
ha, i was there, wore a tracksuit.. hahaha... 75 summers didn't play, Clonepod played i believe.
I loved the dinosaur costume that 75 summers wore... it must have gotten really really hot in there...
i remember that concert, that was really funny!
Yeah, its amazing, I went down and heard all you guys play (loved Absolute Zero and of course GFS) and didnt really get to you know you guys till after the bands broke up haha...
we need a reunion show! all the old bands!
I have been... Im also writing up an analysis report... so far it looks good... Its good to know that the macking still goes on... too many people are now married/engaged/dating here that this Macking forum has lost some of its luster...
Haha lost some luster aye?
Yeah, the Macking forum used to be THE FORUM but now its left in the dust, something to look at when you just want to look back and reminice(sp?) It needs a jump start, someone to get it going again, and thats why I appreciate JP macking it up, giving this place some life again!
macking is the lifeblood of all that is good.
In that case...How you doin'???
Dude it takes a long time to find a chick you can deal with.
so true
don't listen to any of these fools, jp. everyone knows that marriage has nothing to do with "love". marriage is all about GETTIN' IT ON!!! WHOOOOOEEEE!!!
this is the wisest passage ezabel has ever been graced with
haha
this sounds exciting
for this reason i'd love to have a simple quick ceremony and then plan a big party for later like a normal wedding months later so that nobody could make those annoying jokes or winks for months on end. when vanessa was getting married she got so much of it and everytime i wanted to punch them in the face. (of course not literally well only 4/7th literally)
yeah the annoying jokes are just so aggravating
and they continue on through married life
try telling someone that it's hard to sleep when you get married due to having someone else in the bed with you now (maybe you kick them, maybe they kick you, i dunno)
and the people say "no sleep .. heh heh heh"... and you're like "dude i'm FREAKIN TIRED"
I always wondered about this. I could definately see where the jokes could get annoying, people just need to GROW UP, they act like it's this juicy scandalous thing...and even if it is MYOB
I think these jokes are worse for men than women - a few people have said things to me, and I either blush because they're funny, or straight out say, 'That's not funny.' But Donovan has relayed some inappropriate comments to me that he's received. Very strange.
awww come on. you all know you love the attention.
i dunno, for some reason i don't forsee this being annoying to me. i guess i'll find out eventually
Since we're on this topic, I have to ask.....did any of you other married folks (or friends of married folks, did you hear about this ever) feel like you were gonna get in trouble when you left your reception? I remember leaving our reception, getting in the car, driving away, and waiting for someone to call and ask why we just rode off in a car alone together, hahaha.
Seriously, we never rode alone the entire time we dated, and it was SO WEIRD after we got married....I felt guilty, hahahaha.
my best friend felt so guilty she said....she said after she returned from her honeymoon she felt like every time the phone rang she thought it was going to be one of her elders...LOL
that's awful. you shouldn't feel guilty for having...you know...after you're married.
People need to mind their own business anyway.
I knew someone who got treated lousy by some because he and his girlfriend took each of their kids out for ice cream without anyone else being with them. Apparently someone in the congregation bumped into them. Uh...What are they gonna do with kids all around them? People are just silly.
that's awful. you shouldn't feel guilty for having...you know...after you're married.
its lighthearted. its cause when you date for that period of time, then all of a sudden you're alone...its understood how they can feel guilty. LOL
wait...you dont need chaperones once your married?
Nope, you are free to grab her. Haha...
When I was younger me and my best friend swore that each of us as part of the wedding/ honeymoon would have a suite secretly reserved. The plan was that on the BIG NIGHT we'd sneak out (under the guise of getting ice) and go party together escaping the inevitable horror that awaits LOL!!!!
that's possibly the silliest thing i've ever heard
i dont understand what you mean
We were totally nervous about...STUFF.
So anyway we each promised the other that (since we automatically assumed we'd be eachothers maid of honor) when we were booking the honeymoon suite (on a seperate floor naturally), we'd also secretly (like under an alias or something) book an additional room for the other.
The plan was fairly elaborate. Whichever of us got married would stay as long as possible at the reception, while the other would (who had the secret suite) would leave right after the ceremony to head for the resort.
So once Bride and Groom arrive, said 'WingGirl' ( I don't know if I can use it this way but, I am) would already be in the hotel/resort awaiting the preplanned escape of the bride.
Once the escape is made two of us would run off and hang out, with a conversation that would most likely consist of a series of shrill "OOoh My Gods!" a lot of laughing and heavy drinking 'cause I'm sure you only get one good escape.
lol, ok i get it now. so basically you get the benefit of having a wedding without having to go thru with the nitty gritty haha, pretty nice for your future husband!
Later in the evening he would. LOL!
i changed my comment :) it came out a little innuendo-ish
pretty much everything i wanted to say sounded unintentionally dirty tho
How can you edit your replies and I can't?
cuz i'm special
I guess so. I hate you! haha..
Then it must be really bad that it cracked me up.
WHAT?! that is insane! Even when i was younger, i knew i wanted to be with my husband. haha
huh? i mean even before i was of marrying age...16, 17, i appreciated the "benefits" of marriage.
oh, haha yea, i know i'm old. how did you know today is my b-day? i'm 23!!!!
Are you saying you and your friend are gay lovers!! LOL!
um, no you dont need chaperone's once your married. unless you do it differently on the east coast. LOL
Besides if you are not married yet, you don't need a chaperone if you take separate cars and meet in a public place. How can you ever show any sort of affection or talk about personal things if you have people breathing down your neck every second? At least that is my take on the matter. I remember hearing a talk awhile back that talked about this as well.
some still talk against this too tho. with my last bf, we'd meet somewhere totally public would have a few peeps make drama. so lame.
People will talk no matter what. I don't care. If I know I am doing the right thing, then it doesn't matter what peeps say. We must fear Jehovah, not men. Those people are gossiping and disobeying a different type of counsel.
oh believe me, im the same way. and i did tell those peeps what i thought....tactfully of course
You are awesome. ;o) People annoy me.
chaperones AFTER marriage? GET THE HECK OUT OF TOWN. total insanity. if anyone tried to preach that to me, i'd tell them to take off.
i think its a good idea. you never know what sort of stuff those married people are brewing up
Hahahahaha....
haha, not leaving the ceremony, but even still now, almost two years after being married, we'll just be home alone watching a movie or something, and i'll be like...isn't this weird, that we're allowed to be alone in a house together? haha
first a lot of things: 5
i gotta say...a lot of it is me. probably a lot of the reason i havent found someone i want to marry is that i guess i dont want to settle down. im only 21. but a lot of people in the truth decide to get married early, which is good for them, but i don't think im ready. so im not saying that none of the girls i know are worthy or something. i'm not THAT stuck up, sheesh. haha.
smart boy! get married when you're ready deep down in your heart! my personal opinion is 21 IS too young to get married...as you start to grow you realize you're no longer the same person at 25 as you were at 21. I'm seeing WAY too many marriages around me fall apart because of this. So be wise and get married until you're SOOO READY, SOO IN LOVE, and not just cause you love the person BUT really IN love.
You ain't missing anything. Love is for the birds.
Maybe poor relationships are for the birds - true love is a gift from Jehovah.
A relationship only becomes poor when we let it get that way. We could love any number of people out there. True love in my mind is when two people know how to put the work in to keep it a loving relationship. It has nothing to do with so-called chemistry. Chemistry brings you together. After that you work hard to keep it together.
word
Biblical love is based on principles as well as affection - that's what I'm talking about.
good call. i think it will be tough to distinguish what it will be like when the chemistry ends.
I'll drink to that!!!!
CHIRP CHIRP lol
I'm 26 with not even a prospect and probably can't say that I ever had a proper ladyfriend. Can't say I'm happy about it, but cheer up lad. It's easy to feel bummed, but don't. Try to keep busy with other things as hard as it might be. Pick up an instrument and write some songs. That's what I'm doing these days.
Dating... define dating...
J.P. you have the right mind set... dont date anyone unless you meet one that you want to marry. As much as I am for the whole "get to know someone while you date them" saying... I dont think its as effective as when you first meet someone and you have that sparks flying hours long conversation and when you walk away you sit there and release a WOW that girl is amazing...
i think the toughest decision for jp is not finding someone to marry, but choosing just one of all the millions of hot girls lined up to marry him, lol.
for serious jp, it's easy... JUST PICK ONE!!!
Why just one?
^^^^^^^^closet mormon^^^^^^^^
Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet.
This is getting ridiculous. Cruise - it's time you come out of the closet.
You're not fooling anyone.
But..but i'm not in the closet.
Now john Travolta is in the closet. Tom Cruise and John Travolta will not come out of the closet....
lol best ever
anddd john travolta really .. should just.. admit it..
They Marry multiple women.. which is just insane. Who would want to do that?? Seriously.
Dating multiple women is a whole different story.
mormonism is great, from first hand experience. i wish some of the people that call me "the mormon" were on this site.
OMG I only called you that 'cause Chrissy said everyone does...I SWEAR I THOUGHT IT WAS CAUSE OF THE ARGYLE VEST! lol!!!
do mormons wear argyle vests? if so, i'm almost there
I've heard about this entourage. haha...
haha i was thinking the same thing. every other girl is in love with jp.
Man up and talk to one Preston! Hahahaha....
hahah i do, i talk to all of them. they seem to lose interest once my conversation turns to the advantages of utilizing a split backs formation in congregation football games...
you need to mix the two. Tell them you'd like to tackle them at a congregation pick up game..
hahaha. good advice. the girlies will love it.
Well, HunkpapaP's advice is solid...haha...Also try talking about normal stuff, like their hair, eyes, and clothes. You have to talk on their level. Make them feel good. The only thing girls know about football is that the ball is shaped weird and that it is a rough sport.
haha im kidding, i dont really talk to girls about football. well sometimes i do. but only if i know that a)theyll like it or b) i'm trying to make them not feel so stinkin' self centered and think about their hair, eyes, and clothes.
Hahaha...
hey now, some girls are actually into sports and know what football is, maybe that's the key, find someone who you have things in common with instead of asking what to say to a girl just so you can say what she wants to hear
thats cool if she likes sports. i really don't care that much though. whats really cool is if she hates sports but will still bring you beer while you watch.
that was a joke, dont worry.
what i really mean is its really cool if she hates sports but will still watch it with you sometimes. because then you know she really is great. and i wouldnt mind hanging out with someone i really like and watching chick flicks if thats what she likes, as long as i was with her.
i had a brief 2 week thing when i was 18, which was so rediculous. i was almost 24 when i started dating my girlfriend. Definitely good to wait till you're ready, some people are ready earlier, i def wasn't.
yeah jp, you're a really good kid, you have a good heart and your head's in the right place. just keep doing what you're doing, eventually that will fall into place too. when you're desperate about it, that's when you run into problems. keep spiritual stuff first, and and everything else will work itself out
I can't speak on this TOO much, 'cause I had my first boyfriend at like, 10, hahaha.
But if I had it to do over again, (in the truth, obviously) I think I would prefer to go the "unless you're ready to marry them" route. That's the way my husband and I did it....he wouldn't even TALK to me about maybe dating, until he could see himself marrying me. Yeah, very frustrating, but I am grateful to him for it. I think it made us better as a couple, because we got to know each other well. He was 27 when we got married, and the time he spent being single really gave him the chance to figure out who HE was, which meant he was better prepared to be a good husband and a good spiritual head of the household. Plus, he made a lot of friends along the way, some of them girls, of course, and it helped him to figure out what he did and didn't want in a wife.
So I give you credit for not rushing to the altar yet....I've seen lots of couples jump into it early, and a few years later are divorced, and some not even in the truth. (On the flipside, I've seen some young marriages also work out VERY well....it goes both ways).
But seriously, consider it a blessing.....just keep focusing on spiritual things, and serving Jehovah, and things will go well for you. :)
Don't worry about it dude. I'm 27 and I've never had a gf either. Just remember Matt. 6:33. If you serve Jehovah first, he will provide whatever you need to sustain yourself.
And 1 cor chapter 7 specifically verse 32.
i don't have anything new to say, man. it appears you've played it pretty smart. don't even bother STARTING to date a girl unless you're ready [on all levels] to get married that instant. you're gonna be someones everything. spiritual head, bread-winner, emotional supporter, all of it. when you're dating you don't want to have to worry about all that other stuff WHILE you're getting to know her and wondering if she's gonna be the one, FOREVER. take your time, do it right. save yourself the heartache.
I dunno man. I think that's a bit of an overstatement. I don't know if anyone is prepared for marriage when they start dating.
eh, maybe a little. still, i strongly stand by knowing yourself very well, having in practice a successful spriritual routine, and living on your own for a while. this isn't mandated, but it sure-as-shootin' couldn't hurt.
Now this I definitely agree with.
I dont understand the question
thats cause your hte asian sensation!
i was 12 (i started life REALLY young lol) BUT dont worry hun, dont ever rush dating! you save yourself from a lot of heartache and you're giving youself time to find "THE ONE".
im still single and im enjoying every minute of it! so dont feel rushed take your time and enjoy!!!
haha no i know. i'm kidding about being a loser, although my worldly cousins would think so. it's actually one of the things i'm most proud of, not selling out for someone i don't really like just to have fun.
man, its like i have to get this macking forum going every once in a while! you guys are just sick of the mack
I was 15 the first time I thought I was "in love". I was so wrong!
We were just out to dinner last night with an elder who just turned 30, and he says brothers and sisters keep asking him when he'll get married. He said his most important qualification for a lady is love of Jehovah translated into reasonableness. And I don't want to be a traitor to my gender or anything, but not all women have developed that fully before they're like 25 or 30 because we're just more emotional. Take your time!
Dude, I got married when I was 19. Then I became a father a week after I turned 20. Now I take care of 2 kids alone. So you are doing it right. It's better to be established with a job and your own place before you think about marriage anyway.
this is wise
i don't think you are a loser...i have a friend that is 27 and she's never dated anyone...i dont' think that my sister in law who is 28 has dated anyone yet either...nothing wrong with that...make the most of being single...
and don't let anyone change your mind about the seriousness of dating. i was 16 when i had my first boyfriend and it was pure foolishness.
**cough cough HOPE cough cough**
hahahahahaha WRONG
wow, you talk like you are an old maid or something :). you are just starting to come to the age where marriage is a more reasonable. it's good to not always follow the trends. living life, serving Jehovah and being happy-there is nothing loser-ish at all about that.
btw my first b/f was when I was 18 and I def wasn't as ready as i thought i was. he wasn't the right person either, but that's a whole other story.
maybe i was the right person just not at that time
i think i was 16. I was pretty mature for my age, and when i say "pretty mature", i mean, i had just stopped blowing stuff up with m-80s and whatnot
hahah
Dude, same here. 21 years old before i dated anyone. It was a promise i made to myself and Jehovah and i kept it. Don't rush it. But for you its more of a big deal because of the world we live in. People (sadly even around us) are dating younger and younger, some even before they are 18 and out of school! So there is obviously pressure for you to do so and because of that I salute you and have lots of respect for you.
And as a side note: Sometimes it works out that you meet someone you want to marry, but sometimes you meet someone and you think nothing. And one day you wake up and they are someone you want to marry. The love at first sight thing is nice, but a fallacy in the requirement dept.
Can't believe i said that w/o bitterness can you?
eh, I don't know if I've ever had an "official" g/f. And I'm 27. If anything, I'M the loser. Don't worry, take your time. There are still girls who show interest in me (surprisingly, lol), I just haven't found the one I would want to marry. Well, I did, once, but it didn't work out. But maybe all for the best. Only Jehovah knows, but look at the evidence: I'm still pioneering, I'm helping a new congregation in pretty new territories, still happy, and still making tons of cool friends. Point is: Take advantage of the time you ahve to make the best of it for Jehovah. You'll attract the right kind of girl if you are doing things right. Then think of the blessings you will have together! For now, chill :D
PS, you rule, JP.
thanks man! yeah i know, i'm just too busy to date now anyway it seems, and having fun doing other things. and i know youre having a blast in spanish too. and all the things we love to do as single people are just not worth giving up, unless you find the perfect girl. so as far as i'm concerned, ill keep having fun!
right on, brother. you're on the right track! singleness is a blessing :)
Darn right! I may spend thousands on my car but if it wrecks i can at least salvage most of the parts and get some of my money back. Try getting any money or whatever back after a relationship wrecks! Words of wisdom there kids commit that to memory.
are you for real, dude? what if someone steals your car and you never get it back or any parts? sure, you have insurance money, but that won't cover all your modifications ...