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punkprincess by punkprincess · Feb 28, 2002 · 262 views · · · Journal

This morning we were having a conversation in service about nudity and how in Europe it's more accepted. Anyway we started talking about how Adam & Eve were nude, but once they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good & bad, they realized they were naked & sowed fig leaves for clothing. Then Jehovah said that wasn't good enough, the clothes weren't modest, so He made long garments for them out of skin. So the first thing that Adam & Eve did with knowledge was WRONG, and indecent. I found that interesting. I'm pretty sure that could be found in Gen chap 3.

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rocksupastarFounder ·

so wait, are you trying to say you want to be a nudist....?

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 ·

thats what i summized.

iwz iwz ·

yeah, ya ever wonder what we'll do in the new system? naked/clothed? what do you think?

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ·

well no matter.. we're not going to know any better.. like adam and eve didn't know they were naked.. until they ate the fruit.

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 ·

i kinda think clothed because we WILL remember what life was like before so we'll still know that.... ehh nevermind i just thought about my answer and it was to long to expalin. lol. well however anything is, we'll all be happy! :)

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

i hope we're all neked! NEKED NEKED NEKED NEKED NEKED!!! jk, about 99 percent of the population in this country should remain clothed at all times, even when showering.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

You need to be clothed at all times, your just a scary site

iwz iwz ·

sight

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

yeah, thats what I meant

legs legsFounder ·

hmmm...I think were gonna be naked...cause were gonna be brought to physical, spritual, menatal perfection so were prob. gonna be like Adam and Eve (as it was in the begining :no pun intended:) But ya never know...

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

menatal perfection? looks like you could use that. and what pun?

tesoro tesoroOG 2001 ·

i recognized no pun either. (round here they call me big pun, hit you with the....nevermind)

legs legsFounder ·

get it...in the begining...like "in the begining god created..." jeez, can't wait till were perfect so you can get all my in depth jokes...lol

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

yeah but... that wasnt a pun. i mean it WAS the beginning. how many other ways could you put it?

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

they can you big pun??

legs legsFounder ·

shut it matty...

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ·

the whole adam and eve story is just another reason why women need to be subordinate to their man... First time women come around naked and with some food.. OF COURSE MANS GOING TO SAY YES. come around me naked with food.. i'll take it ! even after knowing the history.

iwz iwz ·

hahaha, you can also tell that "i like birds" is ty, because of the space before the ! and the many ...

deanh77 deanh77Founder ·

... elipses? yes I concur.

iwz iwz ·

yes, many many elipses of varying length!

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ·

so you're saying there can only be one man on this planet (since ezabel is on the internet, thus publicly accessible my billions across the globe) uses elipses? Elipses are used to denote pauses in conversation.

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ·

enough with the mix up. I thought that if i ignored it! it would go away! however it is not. And i'm saddened. Interjected with thoughts of who this ty fella is. Must Meet him

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rocksupastarFounder ·

ty

magnum magnumOG 2001 ·

actually i use ... alot, stop bitting my style!

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

Keeps the doctor away

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nine9starOG 2001 ·

so let me get this straight, when adam and eve were perfect t was okay to be naked?

BUT when they had sinned it was wrong to be naked - hmm i never noticed that before how strange

magnum magnumOG 2001 ·

what!? thats a fundamental belief, soemone get a elder committee over here!

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

Im with you there nine...that doesnt make any sense to me either...hmmm.....I have to look deeper into this....

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

guys, c'mon. Don't you see? Adam and Eve were perfect, but they were without knowledge of good and bad. Therefore it wasn't beknownst to them that being naked was wrong. Jehovah would have eventually revealed it to them. See the tree held the knowledge of good and bad, but so does Jehovah, and the way they could prove their loyalty to Jehovah was by not eating from that tree....not to mention there were tons of other trees that were good for food. Therefore they sinned when they ate of the tree, because they stopped feeling the need to show loyalty to Jehovah, and felt they could independently could make decisions for themselves about right and wrong. The knowledge would have come anywhich way. Maybe one day Jehovah would have ordered them to eat from the tree. Even if he didn't, they could always ask, or Jehovah could slowly reveal what right and wrong was. Obviously today we know that being nude at all times is wrong, and even if we were brought back to perfection, we would by no means forget that nudity is wrong. Jehovah would reveal these and other matters so that we know what is absolutely right, and what is wrong. Does that make sense to everyone?

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

nudity is wrong? should i start wearing a bathing suit in the shower?

ilikebirds ilikebirdsOG 2002 ·

brother flo did say that being "nude at all times is wrong "... so i don't know.. i'm scared.

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001 ·

*puts pants back on* woops!

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001 ·

but seriously the point is that, yes they were naked but then, when they realized that they were, they put on clothes that were NOT good enuff, so they were scantily clad. But then again, Isaiah was scantily clothed and preaching.... thats kool, i didnt have anything to wear out inservice yesterday anyway.

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

I think since sin entered into the world they never looked at another naked body as beautiful, but they viewed it as someone they would like to have relations with. Thats probably why we are always clothed cause since we are imperfect we have the tendincy to view others in a sexual way more so then we would if it were for beauty. Yet, what does that mean when we are perfect..this comment just made things more confusing...DOH!

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nine9starOG 2001 ·

hm i dont think you really got what i was saying, i think giac kinda explained it about the sexual aspect but i dont think Jehovah would have made them eventually think it was wrong to be naked - it is our perfect form and if we had stayed perfect we would never have needed clothes - did that make sense?

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

NOPE!

magnum magnumOG 2001 ·

what about when it gets cold? huh? what then?

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

Grow hair

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

it makes sense to me, but I don't agree. After adam and eve sinned, they knew that it was wrong for them to continue to be naked. Jehovah's standards haven't changed, he just had not yet revealed to them that it was wrong to be naked. They just didn't know. Jehovah would have eventually taught them. They didn't have to wear clothes because now they were imperfect, they made clothes when the learned that it was wrong for them to be continue to be naked at all times--and they learned it by eating from that tree. Perfection has nothing to do with their era of nakedness. Knowlege of good and bad has everything to do with their ending the era of nakedness.

legs legsFounder ·

good point...i like the "era of nakedness"

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crazygirlOG 2001 ·

very well put.... i hope you wont have to draw your little picture diagram for everyone. lol

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

"this is adam".....(I point to one stick figure), and this is eve....(pointing to the next stick figure) they had fig l..e...a...v..e...s.. (I say as I draw the leaves).

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

I did some reasearch and found out why Adam and Eve were clothed, it wasnt any sinful tendency, it was that they felt guilty for sinning against Jehaovah and felt ashamed that when naked they are viewd upon as pure, but they arent that anymore, so for that reason they clothed themselves out of embaressement. AND since it was a married couple and had the world to themselves there was no reason for them to be clothed before that, YET if they had a kid or neighbors for that matter, for modesty sake they would be clothed.

thefunkyfresh thefunkyfreshFounder ·

this whole conversation has to end, because nobody actually knows what they are talking about. besides that, the whole thing is just getting annoying

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nine9starOG 2001 ·

no hey that actually makes sense - thanks hun

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 ·

No prob, most intellectual people would make sense of it, I guess funky aint intellectual....

flomojopoanode flomojopoanodeFounder ·

and neither are you

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rocksupastarFounder · flomojopoanode

yes, and this is proven by your use of "aint" how can you be an intellectual and use the word "aint"... hahaha

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 · rocksupastar

cause "aint" is a word. "aint" = are not, who taught you vocabulary??

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rocksupastarFounder · g.f.s.rocks

actually, if you said "ain't that would make sense. but you didn't therefore, i believe my vocabulary is superior to YOURS!!! MUUUAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 · rocksupastar

and what does MUUUAHAHHAHAHAHAHA mean??

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rocksupastarFounder · g.f.s.rocks

its a way you laugh when you are asked a dumb question

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001 · rocksupastar

guys, why are you both fighting in here?! i go and see "4 new comments" and its two people angry!WHERES THE LOVE?! WHERES THE PEACE& HARMONY?!

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rocksupastarFounder · punkprincess

its up ur NOSE!

punkprincess punkprincessOG 2001 · rocksupastar

*sticks finger up nose* *class looks at tina weird* *"im just checking for peace & harmony"*

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rocksupastarFounder · punkprincess

HAHAHA.. sooo funny, i just started laughin here at work!!! hahahaha

g.f.s.rocks g.f.s.rocksOG 2001 · punkprincess

Your so funny Tina...your the best!!

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nine9starOG 2001 · rocksupastar

Tina - so funny lol

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nine9starOG 2001 · rocksupastar

YOU ARE BOTH WRONG

It would be AREN't not ain't and really you should not even use aren't!

grrrrrrrr you boys

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